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From a dealer who has stocked Metrum stuff for a long time. He even offer BNC + pulse transformer for the original octave without voiding warranty. The BNC cost 120 quids though (you could do it yourself for 15 bucks -_-). It's speculation for now since I don't have two units side-by-side. Could even work well (synergy) since I remember John Darko prefering the JKSPDIF (hiface based) to the AP1. 

 

Still I think the Octave is limited by the SPDIF receiver more than the transport. I've tried various transport and the difference isn't as pronounced as other dacs. Also I'm debating if I should try the Mk2. I like original Octave very much - just a minor quibble that mine can't play 192hz files.

 

My cute little stack, pardon the cables very_evil_smiley.gif

 

 


Edited by khaine1711 - 3/30/13 at 6:57am
post #407 of 607
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Originally Posted by khaine1711 View Post

From a dealer who has stocked Metrum stuff for a long time. He even offer BNC + pulse transformer for the original octave without voiding warranty. The BNC cost 120 quids though (you could do it yourself for 15 bucks -_-). It's speculation for now since I don't have two units side-by-side. Could even work well (synergy) since I remember John Darko prefering the JKSPDIF (hiface based) to the AP1. 

 

Still I think the Octave is limited by the SPDIF receiver more than the transport. I've tried various transport and the difference isn't as pronounced as other dacs. Also I'm debating if I should try the Mk2. I like original Octave very much - just a minor quibble that mine can't play 192hz files.

 

My cute little stack, pardon the cables very_evil_smiley.gif

 

 

how do you like the Emotiva?.....do you connect it to the Octave, and if so,how?....been thinking about trying it for my HE-6's

post #408 of 607
Just got home from the postoffice, with octave mk1 in hand biggrin.gif. I just got it set up and listening to it now.
It may not be a fair judgement ofcourse but it sounds quite similar to the dacmagic.
Listening to Iron Maidens "piece of mind"(one of their best albums imo). At this early stage there is a bit more detail, specially on the bassguitar. Soundstage, impact and decay are slightly improved, however it's also brighter than the dm by a fair margin. I'm very anxious to hear how it improves over time becaus when i ordered the octave I was actually very skeptical whether it would be a decent improvement.

Pictures follow soon:rolleyes:
post #409 of 607
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Originally Posted by philo50 View Post

how do you like the Emotiva?.....do you connect it to the Octave, and if so,how?....been thinking about trying it for my HE-6's


It's connected to the QuteHD atm. I'm trying to give it an advantage by connecting it to the better Dac. So far I must say the build quality is really good, the sonic quality however...  not so much. 

 

When connected to the Octave, I actually frowned when I first hear the combo very_evil_smiley.gif


Edited by khaine1711 - 3/30/13 at 10:03am
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How should i burn the dac? Is keeping it powered on enough or should there be music running?

post #411 of 607
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Originally Posted by Stitch View Post

How should i burn the dac? Is keeping it powered on enough or should there be music running?


Put music through it (the red light must not be up). Just listen to it =p; the sound is very lively when new, and mellow out after a while. Quite an experience I must say.

post #412 of 607
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Originally Posted by Stitch View Post

How should i burn the dac? Is keeping it powered on enough or should there be music running?

I also use a Topping TP60 with my HE-6. wink.gif How does it compare to the Emotiva?

Also curious about your thoughts about the Qute/ Octave...

post #413 of 607
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Originally Posted by khaine1711 View Post

From a dealer who has stocked Metrum stuff for a long time. He even offer BNC + pulse transformer for the original octave without voiding warranty. The BNC cost 120 quids though (you could do it yourself for 15 bucks -_-). It's speculation for now since I don't have two units side-by-side. Could even work well (synergy) since I remember John Darko prefering the JKSPDIF (hiface based) to the AP1. 

 

Still I think the Octave is limited by the SPDIF receiver more than the transport. I've tried various transport and the difference isn't as pronounced as other dacs. Also I'm debating if I should try the Mk2. I like original Octave very much - just a minor quibble that mine can't play 192hz files.

 

My cute little stack, pardon the cables very_evil_smiley.gif

 

 

I also use a Topping TP60 with my HE-6. wink.gif How does it compare to the Emotiva?

Also curious about your thoughts about the Qute/ Octave...

post #414 of 607
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Originally Posted by khaine1711 View Post


It's connected to the QuteHD atm. I'm trying to give it an advantage by connecting it to the better Dac. So far I must say the build quality is really good, the sonic quality however...  not so much. 

 

When connected to the Octave, I actually frowned when I first hear the combo very_evil_smiley.gif

thank you.....

post #415 of 607

Try to find TARA LABS Cascade Noise Burn-In File and burn on CD, works for every part on your system.

 

 

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How should i burn the dac? Is keeping it powered on enough or should there be music running?

post #416 of 607
I have to admit I'm not much of a believer of burn in with components that do not contain moving parts and I already notice more and more improvements over the dacmagic after just an hour of listening. So colour ignorant but how do certain sounds are better than others or burn in?
Edited by Stitch - 3/30/13 at 2:48pm
post #417 of 607
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 I have to admit I'm not much of a believer of burn in with components that do not contain moving parts and I already notice more and more improvements over the dacmagic after just an hour of listening. So colour ignorant but how do certain sounds are better than others or burn in?

 

Let's just say there's capacitor burn-in also, but I don't think that's the case with the Octave. Your case is pretty simple to explain really.  You're starting to notice the improvement - though subtle - over the DAC magic. Or it could be your ear is familiarizing itself to the Octave. That raises another point about comparing DAC at meet has no meaning; and that's why I always do my "dac battles" late at night + volume matched.

 

About the Octave, it's a very strange case of burning-in and you may notice. The Octave right out the box sounds "lively", or you can call it exciting/hot. However after like a week the sound starts to mellow out.

 

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I also use a Topping TP60 with my HE-6. wink.gif How does it compare to the Emotiva?

Also curious about your thoughts about the Qute/ Octave...

 

I prefer the Topping =p. I've been wanting to move to bigger amps, but as you can see, my table is quite a mess already. The missus would kill me if I'm to move some big ass class A amp to our room (that and moving 20-ish kg box through narrow stair). Also thanks to you and nigel (spudharris - bought my toxic cable from him), that I've come to know the Topping Tp60. Originally I was pretty set on the Emotiva due to the rave reviews. However, seeing I can get the Tp60 from an UK-based seller with 30d return, I decided to take the plunge and was not disappointed. Still need to try the Trends 10.2 though .

 

Regarding the QuteHd vs the Octave, they have different presentation (and flaws). Let me just say that the QuteHD on USB and no linear PSU is (much) better than the Octave with AP1. If there's some interest I may do a review, but this is the Octave thread and I don't want to derail it. DAC battles are frustrating and fun at the same time.


Edited by khaine1711 - 3/30/13 at 2:58pm
post #418 of 607
Well the QuteHD is the dac of the month so I'd love a 50 word comparison tongue.gif. Compared to the Octave, is it more natural sounding? So far you like it more than the Octave.
post #419 of 607
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Originally Posted by customcoco View Post

Mmm... That's interesting. Would you mind elaborating a little bit for me?
Very quickly, the Octave is smoother sounding, having rolled off highs on my system. That really helps with the HD800 on the GS-1. The DAC-83's presentation is tilted towards the lower end of the spectrum which can sound a little odd with certain recordings. I found the DAC-83 to have the best imaging though. It's all a bunch of trade offs and I prefer the Octave on my system.
post #420 of 607
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Originally Posted by MomijiTMO View Post

Well the QuteHD is the dac of the month so I'd love a 50 word comparison tongue.gif. Compared to the Octave, is it more natural sounding? So far you like it more than the Octave.


I think it's more engaging than the Octave. At the same time I suspect Chord cheats with slightly higher output voltage; and the AP1 isn't a really nice match for the Octave.

 

All in all, considering the Octave + AP1 cost more than the QuteHD, and the build quality of the QuteHD makes the Octave feel like a diy job; I like the QuteHD better atm. 

 

I'll have to do more comparisons (Octave + BNC + Lundahl transformer + different transport vs QuteHD + linear psu + bnc input)

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