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Sgt. Pepper's Lonley Hearts Club Band problems

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 

Hey everyone,

 

 

Sorry if I'm stepping accidentally on any etiquette rules, this is my first thread. I thought this fit best in this forum.

 

So I've been listening to my iTunes ALAC (at least right now) -> ASUS xonar essence stx -> grado sr325is setup for about 5 months now, and have been for the most part loving it. However, and this is a big however, Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club band sounds like TRASH. For some reason, the incredibly screechy highs of the album combined with the kinda wierd sounding stereo-ization makes this (one of my otherwise favorite albums) unlistenable. I've noticed a lot of the problem is fixed if I turn on Dolby headphones, but I don't usually like Dolby headphones, and wish I didn't have to do this for a specific album.

 

So is this just a perfect storm problem with my setup, or do others find this a hard album to deal with?

 

Thanks everyone. Go easy on an audio nooby

 

edit (sorry): to be honest, I find this a problem with most Beatles stuff...


Edited by blindnotdeaf - 7/4/11 at 11:32am
post #2 of 13
I've got the asus. Listening through (crappy) computer speakers and Grado SR80s on foobar, I'm not finding any unusual problems with the treble. From what I've read the 325 is notoriously treble-intense, even for a Grado.

My copy is a 320 mp3 rip from the CD, not from iTunes, though that shouldn't be an issue. As much as I hate to suggest it, it sounds like a mismatch between the headphones and the soundcard.
post #3 of 13
Thread Starter 

I'm playing in iTunes, though it's a lossless (ALAC) rip from CD. Hmm. I wish I had some other equipment to test with.

 

edit: I'll try converting it to AAC 256kbps and see if the problem persists.

 

edit: tried using the headphones with my iPhone and the problem was even more pronounced. I think recording might just be a little treble heavy for the Grados, and Dolby headphones adds in more bass which evens things out. At least that's what I think I'm hearing. 


Edited by blindnotdeaf - 7/4/11 at 12:08pm
post #4 of 13
What settings do you have set up on the soundcard? I'm using hifi, nothing else.

OT - thanks for this thread (though I'm sorry you're having a problem), I hadn't listened to Sgt Pepper in ages.
post #5 of 13
Thread Starter 

Hah no problem. Yeah I'm just using Hifi too. 44.1khz sampling. High gain because I like them a little louder (and couldn't get their with normal)

post #6 of 13
You know, that gain thing could be the problem. What's the impedance on those 'phones? I use low gain for everything except my DT880/250. I've got the sampling rate at 96, but just because I can, no real reason.

wrt volume, I'm at the edge of my comfort zone at 50 with the SR80s.
post #7 of 13

Is your CD the re-master that was released last year?

post #8 of 13
Thread Starter 

nope. and ill check, but I'm pretty sure low gain is a little low (by low I assume we mean normal as that is the lowest setting). I must like them louder.


Edited by blindnotdeaf - 7/4/11 at 10:55pm
post #9 of 13
Sgt Pepper was overtracked four tracks at a time. There are mix downs built into the mix because they were pushing the limits of their technology. The mono version is a bit clearer, but it isn't the best sounding Beatles album. Listen to Revolver or Rubber Soul instead.
Edited by bigshot - 7/5/11 at 2:41am
post #10 of 13

I have the stereo remaster from 09, the mono from 09 and the CD which was out right before the remasters. I also have the us release stereo vinyl record. I played the unremasted CD the most and had no problems. This was at a time when I was really into the album and just purchased a new CD player. You have me wondering how the remastered sounds in comparison to the original CD. What I would do is just get the original CD. Many times with certain CDs the remaster is really not better. I remember reading something about Head-Fi members talking about how they liked the stereo remaster?

Like Bigshot said it was an overlay on a four-track.

 

Really the album as I remember sounded pretty good. None of the issues that you talking about. I remember going to work the next day and talking with my buddies about how good the standard CD sounded. I will play my 09 remasters and post again in this thread. 

 

You have to remember how old the recording is too. If you spend the day listening to 2011 recordings then put on Peppers Club Band it may not compare. One issue is every time you overlay a tape recording on top of another you get a little compression. I don't remember how many times they did that in places on that record but I'm sure it was a few. The compression issues may not run well with the sound signature of your rig. 

 

 

I remember buying the 09 remaster of The White Album and getting pissed off, getting in my car and going to a Beatles collector store near my house called Pepperland. They had two original,( numbered) copies of the White Album so I purchased one. It sounded so much better on my system than the crappy CD. I later found I already had a copy of the White Album. I have to get in order!


Edited by Redcarmoose - 7/5/11 at 6:13am
post #11 of 13
I'm thinking that you may be overdriving the phones. The Grados have a 35 ohm impedance and turning up the gain is probably doing those phones no good at all.
post #12 of 13
The main difference between the stereo box set and the original release is a little more compression in the box. The mono is an entirely different mix. Much clearer and more organized.
post #13 of 13

I'm not sure that it has any bearing at all on o/p's problem but - now that the dust has settled on the Mono vs. Stereo debate and don't have to justify our buying choices any more - Sgt. Pepper's is an album that I only listen to in mono ... the stereo version was a complete waste of money for me.

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