KRK KNS-6400 Review - Impressive $99 Giant Killer - Page 13

Can anyone help me out here? I really want to buy a 1.5M cable for my KRK6400 that isn't straight (like the one that come with the box) but I live in Sweden and I have been looking for a store that sells the cable but no luck so far. The only stores I can find are American and they don't ship international orders!

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Originally Posted by electropop 

What if the vibration is on the recording and the headphone is not able to produce it ie. is not fast enough? What is ideal exactly? I don't think a headphone should stay "ringing" for a sense of false realism. 

 

These are very detailed and I find the tone with many instruments is spot on. They don't sugarcoat anything, but notes are easy to follow and they lack coloration that would make a headphone boring in the long term. Musicality in its finest. By that I mean, that it's accurate enough but not harsh, like many studio gear that's meant to pinpoint flaws in recordings. That said, the treble is still a bit too hot.

 

Not sure if it's my head or not, but I've been listening to the 8400 for two or three hours today and I think the bass response is much more articulate than what it used to be. I go back to recordings I tried when it wasn't quite spot on and more stuff is not distinguishable. Could this be burn-in or that my listening habits have just adjusted? Maybe should take this particular piece of conversation to the 8400 thread 

 

Edit: I have to add that I can't go back to the K272HD anymore. A triumph :) 

If it's not fast enough, then of course it won't sound real either. There's a balance somewhere in between and the ideal is when your ears tell you that you're listening to a real instrument without any medium in between. Like listening in a live atmosphere. Decay is only a small part, like I said tone is more important. A poor recording may also play a part in the tonality but for the sake of argument let's assume we're listening to excellent recordings.

But if you're saying that they don't sugarcoat and lack coloration, that's exactly what I'm looking for. Maybe in your own words. I'll just need to try them myself and see if we're listening to the same thing  Thanks for your impressions.

was about to purchase the 6400 but then i started to check out the ath A700. how do you guys think these two compare?

The 6400 sounds amazing from an Emu 0204 feeding a Fiio E6 in mode 3 from the 2V rear mini jack.  Never heard the A700.  The KRK's frequency response is very similar to the Beyerdynamic DT880 600, but with a slight dip in the mid-bass and the sibilance peak (that some find bright on the Beyer) deemphasized.  Otherwise they overlap very closely.  DT880 is underdamped.  KRK is overdamped slightly, but gives you very interesting low end.  People complain about the DT1350's lack of kick, too, but that doesn't mean it's inaccurate.  Both go very low, but obviously the DT1350 has louder bass (with proper seal) and even deeper, flatter bass.  The 50hz waveform is weird looking, but never drops below the 0 line on the KRK.  Perhaps it's a mode or some reflection boosting the bass back a split second later?  If so, it's pretty well timed resonance in there.  I can hear "deeper" into the sound on the DT1350, ER4S, and modded HD25, but my ears don't hurt as much with the KRK.  Still not as comfortable as SportaPros, but it does some things sonically the Koss definitely can't.  And while they do have a mild grime to the midrange, it's lessened with the E6 which also has superior bass to the E7, by the way.  The headband pad is the most bothersome aspect and I just have to adjust it forward and back to difference spots.  The 8400's memory foam for the headband might be worth trying.
 

Oh and the DT1350 and the 6400 use similar very microphonic cables, but the KRK's is thicker, longer, and removeable.

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Originally Posted by Spade616 

was about to purchase the 6400 but then i started to check out the ath A700. how do you guys think these two compare?

Yeah, I quite dislike the cable on my 8400s. Might try the coiled accessory one...

The 8400 is closer to the HD600 than the HD650.  It compares very favorably to my modded FA-003's (which I liked more than the HD600).  You can see my reviews on the 8400 (on this thread or the 8400 thread.. can't remember which one).. the 8400's were quite bright fatiguing out of the box.. now.. they're much smoother & very articulate.

And I'm not heaping praise on them cause I've got a pair up for sale either (again, see my previous reviews on them).. they're superb phones, regardless.  BTW, mine are a more recent version of the 8400.. so the irregularities people heard from (early) production versions isn't what I'm hearing.  The 8400 are quite smooth, bass is perfect for a monitor-type phone, and freakishly detailed to my ears.