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I have scratched out my 'New Headphone Amp" schematic and before I go ahead with the build I would like to simulate it.  I have heard of Spice, is there a free version?  Is it difficult to simulate?  I am after the Bode plots to decide if I have the correct bandwidth and response. 

 

The amp,

option 1, input stage is a Fetzer valve to an op-amp.  Total gain to be 8-10 out of op-amp.  Next block is the tone stack which is an active bass/treble circuit.

Next block is the channel mixer --> to allow both cancellation of common sounds and mixing left to right - right to left.

Next block is a current doubler to output.

 

option 2, same as 1 except delete the Fetzer valve portion.

 

Power will come from one 3.7 V 2200 mAh lithium cell fed to a DC/DC converter-booster with a range of 5-15V.  PSU will use a virtual ground chip with the leftover op-amps used to balance the current fed to each +ve and -ve rails.  A mini USB port charger with pass through so it can be charged while playing (also need a charge monitor circuit).

 

Goals:

1) to have an amp that will provide a full range signal to my ER-P4 (altered to S4) phones.

2) to be able to tweak the frequency response to suit the source files and my mood.

3) to be able to expand the soundstage out of my head by creatively mixing left and right signals with some attenuation.

4) to not have to continually pay for 9V batteries and use any USB port to recharge the LiPo cell.

5) th have it fit into a case with a similar foot-print as my iPod.

 

I'll be spending some time this week in EagleSoft drawing the schematic so I can post it in a few days. 

 

What I am looking for: some help in board design and spice usage, also comments about my op amp choices, OPA4228 and TLE2084 first 2 blocks TLE second 2 OPA.

 

 

Cha Gheill!

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Originally Posted by jwsplatjw View Post

I have scratched out my 'New Headphone Amp" schematic and before I go ahead with the build I would like to simulate it.  I have heard of Spice, is there a free version?  Is it difficult to simulate?  I am after the Bode plots to decide if I have the correct bandwidth and response. 

 


You can download SPICE for free from Linear Technology's website:

HERE

 

There is a pretty steep learning curve to start out. Dont get overly frustrated - the software isnt very noob-friendly so just take your time. Once you get the hang of the software it gets a LOT easier. 

 

In any case, this sounds like an interesting project, subscribed. 

post #3 of 8

Check out National Instruments Multisim too.It's convenient and very easy to use.

post #4 of 8
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OK, I've been trying to work with the software but I am not making much progress.  I'll try and remember my sketch tomorrow and scan it to post it.  I'm a structural engineer and this is my hobby, the software I'm accustomed to is very different (obviously) than the spark stuff so it may take me a few more weeks to get the hand sketch into the computer.  Question:  If I get it into Eagle Soft for the board design can I use the 'netlist' it creates as input to Spice?  Is it better to work the other way do Spice first and zap the file into Eagle Soft?  I would hate to have to do it twice.

 

JW

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Originally Posted by G.Trenchev View Post

Check out National Instruments Multisim too.It's convenient and very easy to use.


x2 on NI Multisim. I vastly prefer it over Cadence PSpice. I have no experience with Linear's LTspice so no comment there.

Sorry, no idea on Eagle > Spice...

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Linear Technology's free Ltspice is used by pros with the budget for the pricey commercial sw packages - it is really good for Spice simulation - but just for that

 

it is an "engineer's tool" - not a learning tool, nor a integrated layout, schematic sharing production tool with back annotation, parts list, ect.

 

you can get a leg up by starting with working sims - at diyaudio I have posted many sims in Ltspice with the source files - (advanced) search for posts by jcx, with asc, sim, ltspice keywords for a number of working audio related Ltspice simulations http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/search.php?searchid=3034388

 

there are spice related threads in the software subforum there too

 

 

but you really should get a book or two, find some tutorial sites - anybody's spice tutorial will show the common features which are highly standardized across Spice implementations - its the UI, analysis features that vary the most 

post #7 of 8

NI Multisim I give a thumbs down. It was a good tool when it was Electronics Workbench. NI bought it and ruined it.

 

LTSpice is used by everyone I work with. One person even uses TI Tina. Tina is a little clunky, and I don't get as much use out of it. Linear's tool is awesome!

 

The others I work with all use a Cadence tool which is far too expensive for any hobbyist to use.

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I finally remembered my sketch and scanned it.  I have scoured the net for 'blocks' that did things I wanted and ganged them together into this concept.  If anyone has any sort of comment to make please make it; the goal here is to make an amp that is versitile and can be used with any ear/headphones equally well.AMP_1.pdf

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