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post #46 of 377
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Originally Posted by maverickronin View Post



The bank will give you a loan for that new sports car or boat though.  You've got to drop that 12k in one hit.  Walk in to a bank and tell them you need a loan for your headphone rig and see what kind of stares you get.



Assuming you don't need a loan. Keep in mind, there are people out there who easily spend thousands of dollars on hi-fi without blinking an eye and with ease. 12K is not really a lot of money for some people out there in Stereophile land.


Edited by Spareribs - 6/28/11 at 8:14pm
post #47 of 377

this was the most interesting one so far. weird, its also the one with stuff i'm not buying, not in a short time or never.

post #48 of 377

At my current salary it should take 43 years to be able to afford this. Maybe it will be cheaper by then.

post #49 of 377

SR-009 price

 

Yes, that's my son...

post #50 of 377
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Originally Posted by PointyFox View Post

At my current salary it should take 43 years to be able to afford this. Maybe it will be cheaper by then.



or more expensive, think Orpheus

post #51 of 377

Well, the Orpheus is the best headphones I've heard so far.  (Thanks to n3rdling in the last bay area meeting.)

 

If this Stax can be even better... it should be all, completely, totally mind boggling. deadhorse.gif

 

Anyhow, it is beyond my reach.  I'll have to pass. :-)

 

[]s

Walfredo

 

 

 

post #52 of 377

The price could go up or down depending on demand and the dollar yen exchange rate.  Please dollar start rising!

post #53 of 377

I wanted to buy the 007 model until I heard them.

 

I have a feeling I won't feel the same way with the 009 model.

 

BTW, nice video dude.


Edited by arnesto - 6/28/11 at 11:22pm
post #54 of 377

After listening to these at the meet mentioned in the vid, I was almost ruined at the sound. I think I achieved headphone nirvana. I was listening through the A-10 and Ray's MAGNIFICENT Boulder CD Player, but wow, what a set of cans. I wish I had more time with the WES to compare, but I think either amp is an exellent pairing with the SR009.

 

After a few weeks at home with my He-6 and T1s, I have again normalized....

 

 

wannnt...SR009....smily_headphones1.gif

post #55 of 377

Really makes me thinking of buying one.

post #56 of 377

Thank You. Interesting review. 

post #57 of 377

At 10000$-12000$, wouldn't it be worth more to buy a complete speaker system (+ acoustically optimised room)? 

I know, 15000$-20000$ for speakers is only midrange, but still....

 

But if you can spend 10000$ on headphones without blinking, another 10000$ wouldn't hurt that much, i suppose.

post #58 of 377

Just a reminder, the 10-12k does not include a source. So everyone is going to need to set aside another 20k for a top of the line Esoteric dac. Garbage in garbage out. evil_smiley.gif

post #59 of 377

Great review, Jude.  Thanks.

 

I just had a few responses to some of the comments here, and perhaps a query of my own.

 

IMHO even a modest speaker system would be more enjoyable than headphones, no matter how good.  That said, I've heard the 007's but not the 009.  I'm fairly confident my opinion would not change as a headphone is still a headphone (no visceral impact, weird experience of a soundstage that was optimized for speakers and not headphones, physical confinement, and I'm probably forgetting something). Somehow headphones have never gave me the kind of small hairs on the back of the neck raising experience that incredible speakers do.  Don't get me wrong - I enjoy headphones for what they can do or I wouldn't be here.  But if I didn't need them by necessity at times I would always use speakers. This begs my first question - does the sense you describe of having these headphones as close to becoming the mic that recorded the music pumped directly into your ears...does this sensation bring headphone listening any closer to that hair-raising sensation of actual presence of musicians in the room with you that you get with speakers?  You did not comment on soundstage in your review, but I'd assume that they are at least as good as 007's in that respect, which is to say excellent (relative to other headphones). 

 

The driving quality that comes across in the review is detail retrieval.  Though it's a nice feature of any transducer, there are many other things that make speakers/headphones engaging.  I did not really get a sense of how well it engages you with the music...how much you loose yourself in the experience of listening.  At one point you said they were definitely not "sterile" and are very neutral.  I guess what I'm missing is a connection to how they convey a sense of the music you are listening to...perhaps the overused term is PRAT. 

 

As far as the price - there are obviously plenty of folks out there with the disposable income willing to part with it for the experience.  Why not?  Personally I think it utterly ridiculous, but to each their own.  I do understand the relentless pursuit of a passion. There are a great many who would think my speaker system utterly ridiculous.   I can't speak for the headphone world, as I don't consider myself a big fan. In the speaker world, there is a very steep point of diminishing returns at a certain point of investment.  I wonder you might comment how this applies to the headphone world, Jude, per numerous other queries here in asking how do they compare to more reasonably priced high-end models...what do you get for your 500% price difference over a pair of LCD-2's, HE-500's or HD800's?  Actually I'm more interested in less of a specific comment to the models mentioned, but a more general comment on diminishing returns where a headphone like this one is concerned.  Obviously this is very much part and parcel of why you would think twice about shelling out 10K for the experience - but could you comment more on that?

 

I'm also curious about the front end you listened with, as well as the music you listen to, and whether you think this may serve any specific genre better than another, or whether it is just the one-headphone does-all kind of solution?  I'm curious in general as to what kind of music you listen to regardless as your profile says you listen to "everything" - do you have any strong leanings to any particular genres or artists? 

 

 

 


 

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Originally Posted by TheDreamthinker View Post

At 10000$-12000$, wouldn't it be worth more to buy a complete speaker system (+ acoustically optimised room)? 

I know, 15000$-20000$ for speakers is only midrange, but still....

 

But if you can spend 10000$ on headphones without blinking, another 10000$ wouldn't hurt that much, i suppose.



 

post #60 of 377

Jude uses the Lavry 11 to my knowledge.

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