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Help with figuring out an new auto loan with a cosigner

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Hello all. I have scoured the internets but have not found anything that really helps to answer my particular questions. With the incredible wide range of people on this board, I hope that a few of you might have a better understanding of finance, credit, and how it applies to my situation.

 

Background info:

 

I finally graduated college last spring, and have been working full time since then at a steady job. My girlfriend and I have lived together for the past 4+ years, and she recently purchased a home a few months ago.

 

My current car has been having a bunch of random issues lately that are costly to fix and not worth it, in my opinion. To fix the major issues, it would cost around 1/3 to 1/2 of what the car is worth. Even then, something else will probably come up in the near future that would need to be addressed.

 

I have started looking at new cars. I understand that a new car will take a large depreciation hit right away, and I am comfortable with that. I have found the exact make/model/configuration that I would like, and have secured a good price (invoice cost + $300, from an employee friends/family plan set up by the manufacturer).

 

I applied for a loan with my credit union that I have joined recently, about three months ago. The credit union was not able to qualify me for the full amount that I would need to borrow. Here is where my questions begin:

 

- I have 2 people that are willing to cosign for me. My girlfriend (soon to be wife), and a family member.

- My girlfriend just purchased on a house a few months ago, so we are unsure if it would be advantageous to have her as a cosigner.

- My family member has nearly perfect credit (800+), plenty of assets, and 30+ years of credit history. The issue here is that her primary residence is in Washington DC (I would be buying the car in Chicago, and the car would be staying in Chicago).

 

 

- Will a having a cosigner increase the dollar amount that I am qualified for? (A rep at the credit union told me that a cosigner would only lower my interest rate, not qualify me for a higher dollar amount)

- Is it difficult/impossible to have a cosigner that is from out of state? (A finance rep at the dealership implied that there would be complications with having an out of state cosigner in regards to proper titling, registration, etc., and suggested that I have my girlfriend cosign for me instead)

- Will recently purchasing a house have a positive or negative affect on my girlfriend's credit?

 

Finally, I am assuming that a few of you out there are thinking that the credit union did not qualify me for the full amount because I cannot afford the payments (I would think this too if I were reading this scenario for the first time). I agree that if my first year's salary stayed constant for the future, and I was living on my own, that it would be a stretch to make payments. However, my field of work has quickly rising payouts that increase as the months/years go on. With my salary, plus my girlfriend's salary, minus what we have to pay for mortgage, bills, etc. there is easily enough money to make this happen.

 

Any advice would be appreciated!

 

 

post #2 of 3
There are no hard rules here. Lenders have different rules for qualification; it's not like there are standards that apply the same to every one of them.

If one lender doesn't work out, try another. Increasing the down payment or taking a higher interest rate might work. Then again, it might not.

You might want to reconsider the vehicle you want, as well. I know how you can get your heart set on a particular one, but it's just transportation. Get the cheapest reliable car you can find. You won't be stuck with it for life. You can always buy another. And stop giving a crap about what other people think of you. You might be better off buying a reliable $5,000 used car than a new $20k car.

As for new cars, financing one violates my number one financial principle: Never pay interest on a depreciating asset.

So think about going used. Get a copy of Consumer Reports and look at reliability. Reliability is everything. Generally, look at Japanese compacts with a manual transmission. A clutch is a lot cheaper to repair than a slushbox. They get better mileage and are more fun to drive, too.

Another benefit is cost to insure. If you have to carry a full package of insurance (as most lenders require), then you'll be paying 3-4 times as much as a used car. That can be another $150-$200 a month. Do you want to spend that much on insurance? Registration and taxes can be very expensive, too.

I recommend going back and reevaluating your priorities. New cars are nice, but one will put a real hole in your wallet. Maybe you'd be better off with a good used car and saving the rest. You can always buy something cool later. If you do that, also look past new cars. If I were to buy a fun car, it'd be something like a Lotus Esprit, C5 Corvette, older 911, Acura NSX, or a Ferrari 308. Believe it or not, they can be serviced cheaper than some of the new "luxury" cars costing the same. They won't depreciate like standard cars, either, because they're already depreciated and have a strong collector market. Besides, wouldn't you rather have a Ferrari than an entry-level Lexus?
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Thread Starter 

Thanks for the advice. My main issue is this: The only cars that I will consider are AWD (Torsen based) sedans, coupes, or hatchbacks with a manual transmission. The only cars that would fit the bill and are "cheap" are some Mitsubishis and Subarus. I have a strong dislike for Mitsubishi, and the only Subaru I would consider would be the WRX STi. However, I test drove one and found the interior to be terrible, and the gas mileage was just as bad. Because of this, I have decided on an Audi A5 withs ome options, which gets decent gas mileage, has an amazing interior, is fun to drive, and meets all of my other requirements. I understand Audi and German cars in general, and the "baggage" that comes with them, and I accept that.

 

To answer your question, I would much rather have an entry level Audi (that meets exactly what I'm looking for) with full factory/extended warranty than an older sports/luxury car that likely will not meet all of my requirements, and is out of warranty. I'd like to keep this less about which car I choose to pick, and more about having a cosigner that lives out of state, though. I certainly appreciate your advice, and who knows, maybe in a few more years I'll be posting here saying that I should have listened to you wink.gif

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