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Hello!

 

I need to buy a new soundcard, i mostly play games on my PC so that's what the new sound is going to be used for mostly but it will also be used for some music but the gaming part is the important one.

 

I've looked at the Asus Xonar Essence STX, Asus Xonar D2X/XDT and the Asus Xonar HDAV1.3 Deluxe but as i ain't that good on soundcards, can you guys please help me choose the one best suited for me?

 

I will mostly use headphones, i may use my old Logitech Z2300 2.1 set but that maybe is 30 min a month so i want the soundcard to be best suited for the headphones.

I'm also buying new headphones, it will probably be the Denon AH-D7000, i will also use Dolby Headphones for surround.

 

Could you guys please help me?

 

I'm sorry if my english isn't the best, i live in Sweden and it's 5 am here right now so my brain isn't working 100%.

 

Sincerley

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post #3 of 36
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Originally Posted by tom2011 View Post

Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium

 

http://us.store.creative.com/Creative-Sound-Blaster-XFi-Titanium-PCI/M/B001E25KDK.htm



Wow, you're advising someone on getting a soundcard which you never tried and just yesterday were asking people about it. You should really read this thread before doing that ever again: http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/270280/stop-recommending-gear-you-ve-never-heard-rant-warning

 

@hellbringer: Given that gaming is your main concern, a X-Fi powered card is your best bet, Xonar cards are quite good, but not when it comes to gaming.

 

The best card you can get for both gaming and music, being specialized for gaming is a Creative X-Fi Titanium HD, far more powerful than the previous Titanium models. It can be found on Amazon for $140.

 

For virtual surround purposes, if you really have to use it, you have CMSS3D, the equivalent of DH.

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Wow, you're advising someone on getting a soundcard which you never tried and just yesterday were asking people about it. You should really read this thread before doing that ever again: http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/270280/stop-recommending-gear-you-ve-never-heard-rant-warning

 

@hellbringer: Given that gaming is your main concern, a X-Fi powered card is your best bet, Xonar cards are quite good, but not when it comes to gaming.

 

The best card you can get for both gaming and music, being specialized for gaming is a Creative X-Fi Titanium HD, far more powerful than the previous Titanium models. It can be found on Amazon for $140.

 

For virtual surround purposes, if you really have to use it, you have CMSS3D, the equivalent of DH.


 

please dont be mean

 

i know the x-fi is for gaming and has eax

and xonar dont have eax maybe emulate but not all versions some people say

also people say xonar card crash games so dont buy it

 

also its better to have a card support win xp as some games dont work in win 7

 

 

Creative X-Fi Titanium HD dont have 5.1 audio only 2

 

he want 5.1 audio and dolby

 

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please dont be mean

 

i know the x-fi is for gaming and has eax

and xonar dont have eax maybe emulate but not all versions some people say

also people say xonar card crash games so dont buy it

 

also its better to have a card support win xp as some games dont work in win 7

 

 

Creative X-Fi Titanium HD dont have 5.1 audio only 2

 

he want 5.1 audio and dolby

 


 

Ok. The Titanium HD is for both gaming and music. You didn't see me bringing up EAX. What it has is full hardware acceleration, which Xonar cards don't have. And now that you mention it, full EAX 5 support, while Xonar cards have EAX 2.

 

The OP didn't mention having any 5.1 gear. He said he wanted Dolby Headphone, a software surround virtualization feature that has nothing to do with the number of channels being outputted.

post #6 of 36

well if you want to listen to dolby

 

dont you must have 5.1 speakers

 

then a codec in the player your playing the video to get dolby

 

i have dual os

xp and 7

 

some games dont play on win 7

 

i go to win xp

 

if he had this what shell he do


Edited by tom2011 - 6/24/11 at 9:28pm
post #7 of 36
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well if you want to listen to dolby

 

dont you must have 5.1 speakers

 

then a codec in the player your playing the video to get dolby

 

i have dual os

xp and 7

 

some games dont play on win 7

 

i go to win xp

 

if he had this what shell he do



Ah, I see what you're saying :) You're thinking about Dolby Digital and such things that are made for movies.

 

hellbringer is talking about a virtual surround feature that exists on Xonar cards (Dolby Headphone) and on Creative cards (CMSS3D), which turn headphones or stereo speakers' sound into a wider sound, like if you had more speakers around you.

 

Which games can't you run on Win7?

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Originally Posted by tom2011 View Post

this game

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignition_%28video_game%29



I know that game :D But there's something wrong with your configuration, because Ignition runs on both Vista and 7.

 

Have you tried compatibility modes?

 

And what are your system specs?

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I know that game :D But there's something wrong with your configuration, because Ignition runs on both Vista and 7.

 

Have you tried compatibility modes?

 

And what are your system specs?


 

never mind

very old games will not work on win 7

 

and in win 7

you cant make all eax effect

post #11 of 36
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never mind

very old games will not work on win 7

 

and in win 7

you cant make all eax effect


 

I don't think you understood me. I ran Ignition on both Vista and 7, so yes, it runs on Windows 7.

 

And X-Fi cards can use EAX 1 all the way to EAX 5 on Windows 7 as well, just like Audigy cards can use EAX1 up to EAX3 on Windows 7.


Edited by Roller - 6/24/11 at 9:54pm
post #12 of 36
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I don't think you understood me. I ran Ignition on both Vista and 7, so yes, it runs on Windows 7.

 

And X-Fi cards can use EAX 1 all the way to EAX 5 on Windows 7 as well, just like Audigy cards can use EAX1 up to EAX3 on Windows 7.

 

i got Creative ALchemy Universal

 

but i cant do the settings

 

in win xp i can

 

the settings i cant do

is reverb and occlusion

 

i think they are hardware

 

or it need part of directx that is not available on win 7

 

post #13 of 36
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Originally Posted by tom2011 View Post

 

i got Creative ALchemy Universal

 

but i cant do the settings

 

in win xp i can

 

the settings i cant do

is reverb and occlusion

 

i think they are hardware

 

or it need part of directx that is not available on win 7

 



Do you have a Creative card? No? Then you won't use those added features.

post #14 of 36

i can use these features in win xp

 

but not in win 7 with ALchemy

post #15 of 36
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i can use these features in win xp

 

but not in win 7 with ALchemy



ALchemy Universal is an unofficial tool that's not supported by Creative and has very little success margins on few games, unlike the real Creative hardware and according software, that enable all features on virtually all games.

 

XP has DirectSound3D, which enables onboard audio chips to run EAX 2 (some chips, at least) while Windows 7 runs everything through OpenAL.


Edited by Roller - 6/24/11 at 10:14pm
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