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post #256 of 320

wow the new focal spirit one professional are now available! i hope somebody could make some impressions or reviews on this.

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post #257 of 320

Is the "Professional"  just a black Spirit One with a coiled cable?

post #258 of 320
Could question, I would expect them to announce the Classic version soon, but now this?
post #259 of 320

[...] I do hope Focal starts to push higher towards that "utopia" series 'phone we are all waiting for. (at some point)

 

Additionally, the inclusion of both the 1m phone cable AND a longer coiled cable (with the coil high up on the cable [!!!]) is a big win for me.  I was starting to get sick of all the phones that just use bulky adaptors...  Now, with both cables, I can leave the phone cable in my bag and the coiled plugged in my studio equipment at home.

 

 

 

 

P.S. ~ I really wonder what that odd coating texture feels like in hand:

 

Close-up Photo (Click to show)


Edited by Cristello - 9/6/13 at 8:42am
post #260 of 320

Love the finish on this. One reason why I'm apprehensive on getting the original Spirit One and the K550 (and even if I could afford it, the Ed.8) is that I feel like I'll just hate myself for scratching them up. The textured plastic on this looks like it can take getting tossed around without getting scratched or chipped (barring really bad impact of course).

post #261 of 320
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[...] The textured plastic on this looks like it can take getting tossed around without getting scratched or chipped (barring really bad impact of course).

...Which is exactly what Focal is advertising. Hopefully, it'll ring true.

post #262 of 320
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Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
 

Is the "Professional"  just a black Spirit One with a coiled cable?

 

 

Hi!

 

It's not - there's quite a few differences :

 

- Bigger cups (around the ear)

- Memory foam cups and headband

- Textured paint (very difficult to scratch - more durable)

- comes with 2 cables (long coiled one and short 'in-line mic' one)

- very different voicing - very close to the Pro monitors - flatter than Spirit One, especially in mid-bass, and more detailed and open than 'One'

 

feel free to ask any questions!


Cheers,

 

Simon Cote

North American Sales Manager

post #263 of 320
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Originally Posted by ProtegeManiac View Post

 

Love the finish on this. One reason why I'm apprehensive on getting the original Spirit One and the K550 (and even if I could afford it, the Ed.8) is that I feel like I'll just hate myself for scratching them up. The textured plastic on this looks like it can take getting tossed around without getting scratched or chipped (barring really bad impact of course).





 



 



Hi!





The textured paint looks a like like PA system paint so yes -it's very very durable - obviously in recording studios, they will get used a lot and tossed around quite a bit so we wanted something durable more than 'fashionable'



 



Simon Cote



North American Sales Manager

post #264 of 320

Would you consider the coating "rubberized", or is it still a slick texture (aside from the bumps)? In other words, does the exterior have a non-slip style of finish?

post #265 of 320
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Originally Posted by Cristello View Post
 

Would you consider the coating "rubberized", or is it still a slick texture (aside from the bumps)? In other words, does the exterior have a non-slip style of finish?

 

 

The coating is still 'slick' aside from the bumps - so it's not rubberized no.

 

still - because of the bumps - it does not feel 'slippery'

 

 

Simon Cote

National Sales Manager

post #266 of 320

Why all the talk about whether it's slippery? Some mention of the sound characteristics would be more pertinent. We always hear that pro phones are "flat" but I've never heard two that sound the same.

 

Where do these fit into the scheme of things, sound-wise, in comparison to the voicings of, say, the Shure SRH940, the Beyer DT880 Pro, the HD600 etc? They all tell us they are flat too but no-one would say they sound remotely similar. What is Focal's differentiator? Comparing it to the sound of a non-pro phone like the "One" isn't very useful because the targeted pro buyers of this phone will probably have had no interest in the One and have never heard it. Better to give a comparison with other pro phones.

 

Also, are the ear pads AND the headband pad readily replaceable?


Edited by wrightanswer@ear - 9/6/13 at 10:12am
post #267 of 320
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Originally Posted by wrightanswer@ear View Post
 

Why all the talk about whether it's slippery? Some mention of the sound characteristics would be more pertinent. We always hear that pro phones are "flat" but I've never heard two that sound the same.

 

Where do these fit into the scheme of things, sound-wise, in comparison to the voicings of, say, the Shure SRH940, the Beyer DT880 Pro, the HD600 etc? They all tell us they are flat too but no-one would say they sound remotely similar. What is Focal's differentiator? Comparing it to the sound of a non-pro phone like the "One" isn't very useful because the targeted pro buyers of this phone will probably have had no interest in the One and have never heard it. Better to give a comparison with other pro phones.

 

 

Someone asked what was the finish like, and if it was rubberized, textured, how it felt - I think it's a fair question and one that didn't take long to answer :)

 

Flat is still very subjective - most pro monitors, like pro headphone, claim they are flat. fact and the matter is, 1- we all hear different and have different opinions on what 'flat' is and 2- there's a LOT of other factors that impact the overall perceived 'flatness' of sound other than the mere frequency response.

 

With that said - describing the sound compared to other pro headphones is also very subjective - so I can give you 'my' interpretation from recent comparisons with other headphones

 

If it helps at all or mean anything, even though the Spirit Pro is sealed - it does sound more like open headphones than any other sealed I heard so far.

 

I did listen the 3 headphones you mentionned last week in a training

 

SRH940 : it seems like the 940 has a big peak somewhere in the high-end and over-pronounced the 'S' on a lot of vocals that I know don't need de-essing (using tracks I know and was there during the recording and mixing process) also - to me, seems the 940 missed some sub-frequencies (below 80 or so)

 

HD650 (I didn't get to hear the 600 recently) : the Spirit Pro has definitively better bass definition and punch than the 650

 

Beyer DT880 : very good headphones and overall response is the closest to the Spirit Pro that I heard amongst a lot of headphones. However, Spirit Pro is sealed and a lot easier to drive, is a tad more dynamic and detailed in the high-end, and has detachable cables, and is more compact (if that matters)

 

 

Hope this helps a bit!

 

Simon Cote

National Sales Manager

post #268 of 320

Yes, it does help. Thank you.

The mention of openness and good bass definition and punch sounds promising.  

On the other hand, I had a DT880 pro for a period of time but found the highs somewhat harsh for my liking. I think that observation is shared by many others according to reviews I've read. Of course, that is more of a concern for those who also use the phones when listening for pleasure rather than just those at work in the studio, but I'd be pleased if the Focal pros were smoother up top than the DT880s.

I found the lean mids of the DT880s probably led to the perception of the highs (and lows) being accented.

 

Also... how well do you think the latest version of the Apogee Duet (32 Ohm output impedance) will drive the Focal Pro? 


Edited by wrightanswer@ear - 9/6/13 at 10:39am
post #269 of 320
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Originally Posted by wrightanswer@ear View Post
 

Yes, it does help. Thank you.

The mention of openness and good bass definition and punch sounds promising.

On the other hand, I had a DT880 pro for a period of time but found the highs somewhat harsh for my liking. I think that observation is shared by many others according to reviews I've read. Of course, that is more of a concern for those who also use the phones when listening for pleasure rather than just those at work in the studio, but I'd be pleased if the Focal pros were smoother up top than the DT880s.

I found the lean mids of the DT880s probably led to the perception of the highs (and lows) being accented.

 

 

It's hard to comment more on the DT880 vs Spirit Pro highs without further listening, but the Spirit Pro is definitely not 'warm' or 'sweet' in the high-end - it's studio-monitor-detailed to reveal any mixing mistakes.


You'll have to compare them yourself and if you - please let me know what you think!

 

Simon Cote

National Sales Manager

post #270 of 320
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Originally Posted by FocalPro View Post
 

 

 

Hi!

 

It's not - there's quite a few differences :

 

- Bigger cups (around the ear)

- Memory foam cups and headband

- Textured paint (very difficult to scratch - more durable)

- comes with 2 cables (long coiled one and short 'in-line mic' one)

- very different voicing - very close to the Pro monitors - flatter than Spirit One, especially in mid-bass, and more detailed and open than 'One'

 

feel free to ask any questions!


Cheers,

 

Simon Cote

North American Sales Manager

 

 

Thank you for the clarification. I am officially in :smile:

 

BTW, when will the Professional model be available? I live in Canada.


Edited by Beagle - 9/6/13 at 3:38pm
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