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post #586 of 715

I noticed a problem after updating to 5.2. Now I cannot turn the unit off anymore by pushing the rotator wheel for a few seconds. It only turns off via remote. Anyone else have the same issue?

 

Additionally I find it quite strange, that now the display lights up in steps after turn on. 

post #587 of 715
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Originally Posted by schlaget View Post

I noticed a problem after updating to 5.2. Now I cannot turn the unit off anymore by pushing the rotator wheel for a few seconds. It only turns off via remote. Anyone else have the same issue?

 

You can still turn it off after going back to the root menu (source selection). I too experienced the same thing.

post #588 of 715

I still hope that "one day", Resonessence Labs will produce a "Battery operated" version of their Invicta, with an improved interface to select songs stored on the SD card.

 

--> This will create the Super-UBER  DAP !   Plus... the battery operated operation will improve even further background silence.

 

I suggested this idea to INVICTA a year ago, but....  very strange they never moved into this direction.


Edited by bmichels - 9/9/13 at 1:12pm
post #589 of 715

I have been a big admirer of the Invicta DAC ever since Project86 reviewed it, way back when. Now a dream has come true for me, as I am a new owner of this Mirus DAC. I am really blown away by how good it sounds. I pulled the sd card out and dragged and dropped a bunch of my favorite songs (Flac Files) and listened. I can say I am very happy with what I heard. I have a Cardas clear USB cable on order. Anyway, I just wanted to share my initial views on this DAC. I went from the Emotiva XDA-1 DAC, to the Yulong D18 DAC, to the Anedio D2 DAC to finally the Mirus. If I continued that trajectory that I was on, I would have normally bought the Yulong D8 DAC, but I said why keep bothering with that? Nothing wrong with the Anedio D2 or the Yulong D8, but I am glad I went ahead and bought the Invicta. Still just listening to the sd card files, and haven’t gotten into the other bells and whistles on this DAC. I’ll post some more as I get deeper into what this DAC offers.

post #590 of 715

A comparison between the regular invicta and the invicta mirus would be sweet. Does anyone know the sq differences between them?

post #591 of 715

The Mirus is supposed to have a lower noise floor, but we're talking the difference between very low and ultra low. I'd be surprised if it was possible to discern.

 

bmichels: I've talked to various manufacturers about battery-powered products in the past and the general feedback I've received is that it wont necessarily be of any benefit.

post #592 of 715

Am I the only one who thought the HD800 straight from the Invicta was a horrible pairing?

Super detailed but digital and plastic sounding, with no naturalness.

The combo made interesting sounds but couldn't create music. The search for an emotion when listening turned out to be in vain.

post #593 of 715
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Am I the only one who thought the HD800 straight from the Invicta was a horrible pairing?

Super detailed but digital and plastic sounding, with no naturalness.

The combo made interesting sounds but couldn't create music. The search for an emotion when listening turned out to be in vain.

 

 

I don't hear it that way at all. In fact I'd compare the amp section favorably to many mid-priced stand alone amps. Use an adapter for balanced mode and it does add a little more life or body to the experience. Did you get a chance to try that?

post #594 of 715

I would have to emphatically agree with project86 -- the HD800s actually sound quite good with the Invicta, and I would also agree that using the HPs in balanced configuration make a big difference.   I would even go a bit further and say that the Invicta's HP amp rivals the sound of amps in the upper price range, not just mid.  Plastic and digital-sounding -- definitely not.  I do think the headphone cable makes a difference as well and if you haven't yet done so, try upgrading from the stock cable.  I've recently become more involved with hi-res downloads, and I have found that having a really good hi-res source can make a big difference as well.   So before concluding that the HD800s are a poor match for the Invicta, I would suggest using balanced mode, upgrading the cable, and most importantly download several good hi-res recordings (the SD card function is great for this purpose).  

post #595 of 715
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Originally Posted by Sweden View Post
 

Am I the only one who thought the HD800 straight from the Invicta was a horrible pairing?

Super detailed but digital and plastic sounding, with no naturalness.

The combo made interesting sounds but couldn't create music. The search for an emotion when listening turned out to be in vain.

That's the combination I have, and I also find it very detailed. But, very pleasurable. Very neutral and uncolored. Very true and honest.

If the emotion is not there in a music track, the Invicta + HD800 combo will not create it from nowhere. If it is there, in the music, the Invicta + HD800 combo will reveal it, and convey it.

post #596 of 715

I don't see it as an impossibility as that being the way I see the HD800 with close to total transparency to the source material, but to me it lacked power somehow.

I'm one of those people who find the HD800 soulless and clinical when paired with most SS amps. When I think of it I have not heard one one SS amp I'm fully satisfied with.

It's like a strict German businessman who needs a couple of shots of Vodka to be bearable to hang out with at a party. At some situations maybe even the finest Bolivian booger sugar is necessary to make him to get up on the dance floor.


Edited by Sweden - 10/26/13 at 5:33pm
post #597 of 715
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I don't see it as an impossibility as that being the way I see the HD800 with close to total transparency to the source material, but to me it lacked power somehow.

I'm one of those people who find the HD800 soulless and clinical when paired with most SS amps. When I think of it I have not heard one one SS amp I'm fully satisfied with.

It's like a strict German businessman who needs a couple of shots of Vodka to be bearable to hang out with at a party. At some situations maybe even the finest Bolivian booger sugar is necessary to make him to get up on the dance floor.

 

Well there's your problem - you intrinsically dislike the HD800! Of course the Invicta amp section won't do it for you.... you need a colored amp to change the headphone into something it isn't. 

 

EDIT - not saying that's necessarily a bad thing. You certainly aren't alone in that thought, and many people feel the same way. It's not a major coloration needed for most people, just a slight change to tip the scales towards musicality. 


Edited by project86 - 10/26/13 at 8:31pm
post #598 of 715

I really like the HD800 for it's balance, detail, clarity, soundstage and imaging but I guess amp picky in reality means finding an amp which correct for the overly analytical and fake/strident quality of the HD800s I find too distracting to enjoy the music.

I didn't feel any real transparency to the music listening with the Invicta/HD800 combo and it would be ironic that adding some form of colouration would increase perceived transparency for some people.

Too me the HD800 sounded a bit like it does when it's underpowered.

post #599 of 715
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Originally Posted by Sweden View Post
 

I really like the HD800 for it's balance, detail, clarity, soundstage and imaging but I guess amp picky in reality means finding an amp which correct for the overly analytical and fake/strident quality of the HD800s I find too distracting to enjoy the music.

I didn't feel any real transparency to the music listening with the Invicta/HD800 combo and it would be ironic that adding some form of colouration would increase perceived transparency for some people.

Too me the HD800 sounded a bit like it does when it's underpowered.

 

I understand. It's not really underpowered imho but it just doesn't do it for you. Such is life. A lot of people are picky with amping their HD800 so it's nothing new. 

post #600 of 715

Like project86, I also use mine in differential mode, with both outputs feeding the headphones, which clearly benefits dynamics and "slam".

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