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post #301 of 541

My Sony MDR 7550's arrived!

 

Before I got the EX1000, I looked at the frequency response graphs comparing the EX1000 to the 7550 (both Sonove and Tyll have them graphed) and tried applying an equaliser to the EX1000 to guess how they might sound. (-2db at 2k, -3db at 4k, -5db at 8k, -3db at 16k in iTunes).

 

Welp, the 7550's really do sound pretty much like that. A smoother sounding EX1000 which takes the edge of some of the more grating sibilance peaks of the EX1000 but also loses some of the airy spaciousness and ambience of the sound. This does rob the EX1000 of their character somewhat, but does make the IEM more friendly for more genres and preserves their actual ability compared to their perceived detail.

 

The differences in build are a mixed bag. I love the longer (1.8m) cable for desktop listening, but its obvious that the materials used on the 7550 are of a lesser quality; ie: the cable is less supple, there are rubber seam joints on the ear guides, the (metal?) shells look like cheap black gloss plastic and not that dark burgundy of the EX1000's magnesium housing. They still have great build quality, it just doesn't scream premium like the EX1000. However, the overall lighter weight of the earpieces takes the EX1000 design which is already comfortable, and makes it even moreso. 

 

It doesn't seem that these changes make a great deal of difference to the actual sound though, given that the EX1000 and EX 7550 graph almost identically. Apart from the filter design and port size, I would guess the difference in measured distortion comes down to the EX1000's LCP driver.

 

Might be a bit early to draw conclusions, but the 7550 seems like a good value alternative to get the EX1000 sound without the peaks. (Kind of like how the CK90Pro relates to the CK10). And if you aren't adverse to EQ, the EX1000 can be turned into a premium 7550 preview in a jiffy. 

post #302 of 541

Welp, so nothing special in the MDR-7550 mids then?

post #303 of 541
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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

Welp, so nothing special in the MDR-7550 mids then?

 

Well, its always going to be like this: having less treble energy means that you are going to be able to turn up the 7550 to higher volumes, and that will generally always sound better. But yes, I don't think there is anything dramatically different in the mids compared to the EX1000.

 

Considering that you like the EX700 I think thats a tradeoff you'd be happy with though Kiteki haha. I heard a pair of EX700's again recently in a meet, it was still very ouch to me. :P

post #304 of 541

I just got myself a pair of 7550s, should be arriving in a week or so.


I was so impressed by the EX600s (for $150) that I decided to get the 7550 because of the smoother treble and more forward mids. Also, according to music_4321, he thinks the 7550 compares very well to his ES3X (which I also own and love), so I'm very excited to hear it for myself. Will share some impressions once I get them!

post #305 of 541
Originally Posted by a_recording View Post

 

Considering that you like the EX700 I think thats a tradeoff you'd be happy with though Kiteki haha. I heard a pair of EX700's again recently in a meet, it was still very ouch to me. :P

 

What's your take on the Sonove graph's of the EX700 versus the EX600 / EX800ST / EX1000?

post #306 of 541
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What's your take on the Sonove graph's of the EX700 versus the EX600 / EX800ST / EX1000?

You know what? That's a very good question. I've seen that graph before, and unless its because I'm particularly sensitive to the spike at around 9k I'm not really sure why it would sound more sibilant to me than the EX1000. I would have hesitated to make any comparison had I not heard it again at the last meet.

Ideally I would like to see more measurements from other sources. I actually think the EX series has a sound that is better reflected in Tyll's measurements, but both show more or less the same difference between the 7550 and ex1000.

I'm enjoying the 7550 quite a bit so far though.
post #307 of 541

Well the EX1000 is measured as harsher than the EX700 at sonove (at least when you match them at 1kHz, which Inks seemed to have an issue with once).

 

The ER-4, CK10, FXD80 are pretty spiky up at 9~10kHz, I think it's a fairly safe area since some recording engineers add ~6dB at 10kHz!  If you're listening to those recordings it could become a little intense though using an in-ear with a natural ~6dB spike......

 

Muppetface places a few virtues in the EX700 as well which aren't present in the EX600/800ST/1000, she picked one up just in time before they all vanished from discontinuation.


Edited by kiteki - 8/24/12 at 11:32pm
post #308 of 541
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Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

Welp, so nothing special in the MDR-7550 mids then?


lol Kitekit since you seem to be such a treble head I have a feeling the Hisound players will be to your liking ;). I also bit and bought the MDR7550. The fact that it seems to possess the EX1000s technical ability without that nasty treble pushed me over the edge. Hopefully I'll enjoy it more than my former FX700 (too much bass and treble when you turn up the volume, plus the mids are lacking in presence).


Edited by lee730 - 8/26/12 at 9:16am
post #309 of 541
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lol Kitekit since you seem to be such a treble head I have a feeling the Hisound players will be to your liking ;). I also bit and bought the MDR7550. The fact that it seems to possess the EX1000s technical ability without that nasty treble pushed me over the edge. Hopefully I'll enjoy it more than my former FX700 (too much bass and treble when you turn up the volume, plus the mids are lacking in presence).

I felt the same as you about the EX1000 and I'm enjoying the 7550 much, much more.  

post #310 of 541
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I felt the same as you about the EX1000 and I'm enjoying the 7550 much, much more.  


Thanks DannyBai that kinda puts me at ease with this purchase. I was on the fence about the 7550s for a long time. So do you still have your EX1000s? What about them do you not like in comparison to the 7550s?

post #311 of 541
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Thanks DannyBai that kinda puts me at ease with this purchase. I was on the fence about the 7550s for a long time. So do you still have your EX1000s? What about them do you not like in comparison to the 7550s?

I sold the EX1000's awhile ago but the 7550's are definitely missing the nasty sibilance.  I would say the 1000's bass had more texture, soundstage was slightly bigger.  Can't really remember how the vocals sounded on the 1000's but the 7550's aren't bad.  7550's seem quite neutral compared to what I normally listen to.  Overall, it's pleasant and doesn't really seem to do anything wrong.  

post #312 of 541
Originally Posted by lee730 View Post
Originally Posted by kiteki View Post

Welp, so nothing special in the MDR-7550 mids then?


lol Kitekit since you seem to be such a treble head I have a feeling the Hisound players will be to your liking ;).

 

Well I like mids and treble a lot more than bass, bass is OK at slightly higher volumes if it's high quality (such as, ATH-ES10) but that's pretty rare.

 

I'm in the smartphone->amp camp right now but will probably return to a good portable DAP sooner or later.

post #313 of 541
Then I think you'll Particularly like their players. The mid range and treble are the best parts of the player while the bass is very well controlled.
post #314 of 541
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Originally Posted by DannyBai View Post

I sold the EX1000's awhile ago but the 7550's are definitely missing the nasty sibilance.  I would say the 1000's bass had more texture, soundstage was slightly bigger.  Can't really remember how the vocals sounded on the 1000's but the 7550's aren't bad.  7550's seem quite neutral compared to what I normally listen to.  Overall, it's pleasant and doesn't really seem to do anything wrong.  


That's pretty cool that a number of headfiers followed suite in my opinions later on. It may not have been as extreme as my case but it seems the longer these people had the IEM they also became acquainted with its flaw. Crossing my fingers with this one. Hoping it will suite me better than the FX700s. So are these your favorite among your universal dynamics?


Edited by lee730 - 8/27/12 at 5:00am
post #315 of 541
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post


That's pretty cool that a number of headfiers followed suite in my opinions later on. It may not have been as extreme as my case but it seems the longer these people had the IEM they also became acquainted with its flaw. Crossing my fingers with this one. Hoping it will suite me better than the FX700s. So are these your favorite among your universal dynamics?

I like them but not my favorite.  To me the 7550 are more neutral than the W4 but lacks the instrument separation the W4 possess.  W4 also has better/more forward mids.  I really liked the FX700's but the bulky housing ruined the fit for me.  The 7550's are way more mellow and less sparkly and bass hits softer going from memory.  My favorite universals have been the JVC FXD series since they've come out.  The FXD80's are something else.  It's more colored then the 7550 but does it in a good way.  Plenty of detail but adds a fun factor I can't resist.  

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