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post #181 of 212

Hello from a fellow t70p owner!

 

I'm considering buying a AQ Dragonfly or Meridian Explorer to go with my cans.  I'm wondering if anyone has tried the combinations and make a recommendation.

 

As I understand it, the Meridian is widely viewed as superior, but can be sensitive to low impedance headphones.  Has anyone heard the ME with the t70p's?

 

Any thoughts?

 

Thanks, Bob

post #182 of 212
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Originally Posted by Synthax View Post

I don't know which amplifier will be right for you. But improvement with even portable amp is audible.
As T70 are rather bright you can try with FIIO as FIIO tend to be a bit warm sounding.

Actually I did try a FIIO E11, but other than the ability to boost the bass, I didn't notice and obvious difference. Perhaps I don't know what to listen for.
Also since I'm using an iPod Touch 5, I would like to find a way to use the digital output rather than the headphone jack.
post #183 of 212

Firstly, you should use bottom LOD connection. Either digital nor analog but LOD is much better than jack. You will hear much difference with ALAC files than other source in touch like Spotify, Deezer etc..

post #184 of 212
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Firstly, you should use bottom LOD connection. Either digital nor analog but LOD is much better than jack. You will hear much difference with ALAC files than other source in touch like Spotify, Deezer etc..

As I was trying to say the ipod touch 5 doesn't have a 30 pin LOD analog output, but rather a 8 pin "lighting" connector which is digital output only. The problem is that most portable amps accept analog inputs only like all the FIIOs amps. So I need a portable amp with a built in dac that is MFI compliant to support an iPod connection.
And yes 95% of the material on my iPod is ALAC.

P.S. I know these amps exist, but currently the avg. cost is around $500! And that doesn't justify the cost for just a small improvement in sound.
Edited by TJ Max - 9/14/13 at 6:18am
post #185 of 212

Thanks.  I have a Fiio E11 using an AQ Golden Gate iPhone to Line connection - using the 30 pin LOD and not just line-to-line, does make a huge improvement.

 

But to be honest the Fiio is just "ok" IMO.  I really cant tell much of a benefit versus just using the iPhone by itself.  Yes, there is a benefit, but is it worth carrying around another box?  I only use it when sitting at my desk or on a plane for hours.

 

So, if I am at the desk, I'm hoping the Dragonfly or Explorer would offer a noticeable improvement over a stock iPhone.  Just the question of which for a 32 ohm headphone?

post #186 of 212

Spent about an hour doing a comparison of the Shure 940 and the T70p models. Similar sounding phones, exept for a wider soundstage and somewhat better resolution on the T70, and a sound resembling sibilance in the treble area of the SRH940. 

In short, I found the T70p's better, but not 2 x the money better. By the way, the 940 had atrocious build quality. Thin, squeaky plastic has no place on headphones.

post #187 of 212

I just bought a T70p and I love many things of it, specially the clarity, the well controlled bass and mids.

 

Unfortunately I find the high frequencies very difficult to tolerate, even unnatural and piercing, silvant, when playing 50% of the modern Indie and Rock music that I play most. Granted, maybe thgis is the mastering of modern music, but I can't change that, I need a headphone that can play modern masterings with clear and precise sound without being piercing. Sometimes the T70p will sound sublime (20% of cases), but in half of the music the highs are hard to take.

 

I am playing straight from my iPhone 5 ... is there any trick I could do to tame the high frequencies (not EQ, I can't do EQ when I stream from MOG)?

 

If I can't tame the highs I will need to return the T70p, much to my sadness as I adore the clarity of this headphone. 

 

Do you know if the T90, or even the T1 are as clear as the T70p, but have better controlled high frequencies?

 

Thanks for your advise!

 

I would love to love this headphone ... but the harsh highs are killing me ...

post #188 of 212

Well after reading through what people have posted here comparing their DT770 600 ohm to the T70, it looks like that will be my next pair. I just got my "like-new" DT770 Premium 600 ohm and am in love again, I was just browsing around here to see what has been improved on with the newer T70. 

post #189 of 212
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Originally Posted by MrGuzmanWhite View Post
 

I just bought a T70p and I love many things of it, specially the clarity, the well controlled bass and mids.

 

Unfortunately I find the high frequencies very difficult to tolerate, even unnatural and piercing, silvant, when playing 50% of the modern Indie and Rock music that I play most. Granted, maybe thgis is the mastering of modern music, but I can't change that, I need a headphone that can play modern masterings with clear and precise sound without being piercing. Sometimes the T70p will sound sublime (20% of cases), but in half of the music the highs are hard to take.

 

I am playing straight from my iPhone 5 ... is there any trick I could do to tame the high frequencies (not EQ, I can't do EQ when I stream from MOG)?

 

If I can't tame the highs I will need to return the T70p, much to my sadness as I adore the clarity of this headphone. 

 

Do you know if the T90, or even the T1 are as clear as the T70p, but have better controlled high frequencies?

 

Thanks for your advise!

 

I would love to love this headphone ... but the harsh highs are killing me ...


I'm not sure how long you've let your T70p burn in but it does get tamer in the treble. However it is not an overly warm headphone. I'm not sure what classifies as Indie, but they are really good for acoustic and well recorded music like Jazz or Classical or anything that calls for neutrality. You man enjoy the Beyerdynamic Custom Pro more than these if you plan to listen to Rock.

Having said that, the T70p is very flexible with an EQ. It's neutrality makes it easier to tune it exactly the way you want.

post #190 of 212
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Having said that, the T70p is very flexible with an EQ. It's neutrality makes it easier to tune it exactly the way you want.

 

Thanks for the feedback. The EQ is a possibility at least for music I have in the iPhone (vs streaming). Would you recommend a particular EQ app that keeps excellent sound quality? 

 

I would like to reduce the silvance and aggressive spikes of HF by tuning down specific frequencies. Do you have any advise of EQ settings to achieve this?

 

In looking at the FQ chart of the T70p at Innerfidelity it seems that the spike at 8 KHz may be the causing silvance and too aggressive highs? 

 

Thanks indeed!

post #191 of 212
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Originally Posted by MrGuzmanWhite View Post

Thanks for the feedback. The EQ is a possibility at least for music I have in the iPhone (vs streaming). Would you recommend a particular EQ app that keeps excellent sound quality? 

I would like to reduce the silvance and aggressive spikes of HF by tuning down specific frequencies. Do you have any advise of EQ settings to achieve this?

In looking at the FQ chart of the T70p at Innerfidelity it seems that the spike at 8 KHz may be the causing silvance and too aggressive highs? 

Thanks indeed!


Look for Accudio Pro by Golden Ears in the app store. With it you can download a profile for T70p. Accudio uses the profile to set an EQ that is the inverse of the T70p frequency response canceling it out by certain degree making it closer to the reference point 0db. You can also customize and adjust sub bass, bass, vocal, sibilance and treble.
Edited by TJ Max - 3/7/14 at 12:26pm
post #192 of 212
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Look for Accudio Pro by Golden Ears in the app store. With it you can download a profile for T70p. Accudio uses the profile to set an EQ that is the inverse of the T70p frequency response canceling it out by certain degree making it closer to the reference point 0db. You can also customize and adjust sub bass, bass, vocal, sibilance and treble.

Thank you very much indeed!

 

I tried today Accudio Pro and it works very well, albeit it reduces a bit the max volume, not sure why, but as you say allows to balance the sound nicely.

 

I also tried today Audirvana Plus in my Mac and it is possible to use Audio Units with a graphic equalizer. There i reduced the frequencies at 6.3 KHz, 8Kz and 10KHz and this reduces completely the silvance on the T70p while maintaining great SQ. I use this setting only for modern music as it is usually not well mastered, but I use no EQ for Classical and Jazz. This is a huge improvement for the T70p, it is possible to play all music without "painful pinching highs". 

 

Wonderful!

 

post #193 of 212
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Originally Posted by MrGuzmanWhite View Post
 

Thank you very much indeed!

 

I tried today Accudio Pro and it works very well, albeit it reduces a bit the max volume, not sure why, but as you say allows to balance the sound nicely.

 

 

 

 


It reduces the output gain by -8db to prevent clipping. You can set the gain back to 0 db in the sound settings. 

post #194 of 212
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Originally Posted by TJ Max View Post
 


It reduces the output gain by -8db to prevent clipping. You can set the gain back to 0 db in the sound settings. 

Thank you very much. I will try.

 

The EQ has made the T70p a great headphone for my taste. It plays great all kinds of music ...

 

Really great HP portable that surprisingly doesn't get much recognition here at Head-fi ... every one seems obsessed with the NAD Visio and the B&W P7 .... when the T70p, in my view is a better or at least as good portable HP.

 

Thanks again ...

post #195 of 212

I currently have and enjoy the sound of the beyerdynamic dt1350. However the on ear design really bugs my ears during extended listening periods so i'm looking for something over ear. I'm just wondering if the T70p has a similar sound signature to the dt1350? Thanks!

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