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post #1 of 8
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I've been wanting to get a good pair of headphones to upgrade from my 201's for some time now, and since I'm going to Canada for the summer I'll be able to pick up some ATH phones for cheap. I heard good things about the M50 and that it's good for electro music so it should be good for me. I've got a few questions though:

 

1) How heavy is the bass? I'd like it to have a bit more bass than the 201's, but not so much that it blocks out mids and highs and the sound is unclear.

 

To give an idea of how much bass is too much, check the bass on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyJnH3Kj-5A

 

With my speakers plugged in with the subwoofer on mid-high (x-230) the bass is like BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO which drowns out the rest of the music.

 

2) Do I need (or is it strongly recommended) that I get a sound card / amp? 99% of the time I'll have the headphones plugged into my computer (stock sound card). I'm already spending a lot on the headphones so I'd prefer not to spend a lot more.

 

3) How loud are the headphones? My 201's are fairly quiet. When plugged into some devices like my phone (HTC wildfire) or some computers it's not as loud as I would like it to be.

 

 

Thanks a lot in advance!

 

post #2 of 8

1. Hd201? Seriously? They don't have bass at all compared to the M50's. And bass is personal preference. Think of it as the headphone is more capable for bass then others, allowing them to showcase the bass better. They don't add bass but down out the mids and highs less so the bass is upfront. The bass from you example with he M50's should be able to be felt from the cans without a static or rumble like others. You can always work with you Eq and adjust how much bass and make everything else come out.

 

2. You don't need a soundcard. Unless you're prepared to pay +$200 on one, the sound will not improve from you MoBo. An amp with the M50's are not needed.

 

3. The Hd201's need some power to push, IMO, but the M50's are pushed pretty easily. You'll be able to bleed from your ears before you make to the end of you volume control.

post #3 of 8

I have no experience with the 201's, but I can tell you the M50s have affirmative bass that extends extremely low with confidence.  That does not mean however, that it has quantitively lots of bass.  Definitely not overpowering like a full-size subwoofer on many entry-level 2.1 systems.  M50's bass is rather neutral, leaning a tiny bit towards bass-heavy. You will not need an amp for it, but having an external dac and amp is always a nice thing.  They can get rather loud, but won't be too loud coming out of phones or iPods (not super loud, but to the point to where you can hear them full sound)


Edited by TMRaven - 6/19/11 at 1:34pm
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Originally Posted by Bartmasta View Post

I've been wanting to get a good pair of headphones to upgrade from my 201's for some time now, and since I'm going to Canada for the summer I'll be able to pick up some ATH phones for cheap. I heard good things about the M50 and that it's good for electro music so it should be good for me. I've got a few questions though:

 

1) How heavy is the bass? I'd like it to have a bit more bass than the 201's, but not so much that it blocks out mids and highs and the sound is unclear.

 

To give an idea of how much bass is too much, check the bass on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyJnH3Kj-5A

 

With my speakers plugged in with the subwoofer on mid-high (x-230) the bass is like BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO which drowns out the rest of the music.

 

2) Do I need (or is it strongly recommended) that I get a sound card / amp? 99% of the time I'll have the headphones plugged into my computer (stock sound card). I'm already spending a lot on the headphones so I'd prefer not to spend a lot more.

 

3) How loud are the headphones? My 201's are fairly quiet. When plugged into some devices like my phone (HTC wildfire) or some computers it's not as loud as I would like it to be.

 

 

Thanks a lot in advance!

 



I'm wearing my M50's right now, plugged into my laptop (stock sound card) without an amp.

 

1) It's solid bass without overwhelming AT ALL.

 

2) It sounds great without amp, also you can improve the sound further via some EQing (M50's respond very well to EQing).

 

3) Very well. I only need to put my laptop on 25% volume for my normal listening volume on the M50s. Anything over 50% on my laptop = ear-bleedingly loud.

post #5 of 8

Great headphones, but it's impossible to describe exactly how much bass they have. I would suggest trying them out though, just buy from a place with a good return policy. I would say around 95% of people who buy them end up loving them. Even if you end up not liking them, it will be good that you tried them because later on when asking for suggestions, you can refer back to the M50 as what you want different.

post #6 of 8

Big step up from the HD201's.  ATH markets these to be a monitor headphone, so, no, not too bass heavy.  One thing I really liked about them when I got them was that they didn't need a lengthy burn in period...which makes trying them out cool too, as in what you hear in a tryout is most likely what you'll hear later on.

 

I use them straight out of laptop sound cards, both a MacBook Air, and Dell Latitude, and get surprisingly good sound.  Out of my iPhone 3gS, the flat eq sounds best to me.  The m50 does respond well to amplification, and I do use my mini3 if it's handy, but if I'm traveling light, I don't miss using an external amp.

post #7 of 8
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Originally Posted by LeonardS View Post

Big step up from the HD201's.  ATH markets these to be a monitor headphone, so, no, not too bass heavy.  One thing I really liked about them when I got them was that they didn't need a lengthy burn in period...which makes trying them out cool too, as in what you hear in a tryout is most likely what you'll hear later on.

 

I use them straight out of laptop sound cards, both a MacBook Air, and Dell Latitude, and get surprisingly good sound.  Out of my iPhone 3gS, the flat eq sounds best to me.  The m50 does respond well to amplification, and I do use my mini3 if it's handy, but if I'm traveling light, I don't miss using an external amp.


Out of my laptop sound card, I find EQing bass up to mid-mids uniformly by 5~7 dB to be quite beneficial to the overall sound. Vocals sound much less "stuffy" (like the singers have a severe cold) and make the headphones open up a lot more.

 

post #8 of 8

It is possible to further improve the sound of the M50 with the right amp, but like others have said before me, they are not needed. The difference in sound is not exactly awesome.

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