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post #16 of 109
6/17/11 at 4:31pm

I'm hearing just like the first picture.

 

Ultrasone Pro 900 through a PA2V2 and a NI Audio 2 DJ.

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post #17 of 109
6/17/11 at 4:33pm

From what it seems with no offense implied, recessing the midrange creates the 1st image? Since it seems the Pro 900, AKG K701, and Grados have been reported to have the 1st image.


Edited by wind016 - 6/17/11 at 4:35pm
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post #18 of 109
6/17/11 at 4:36pm

I'd say more towards the first, but thats likely due to my crossfeed filter, stuffed earpads, and markl wood cups.

 

I think stock it would have been more towards the second

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post #19 of 109
6/17/11 at 4:37pm

I'm wondering, is there a universal right or wrong to this test?  Like did the creators of it intend it to be like the first or second image-- and with what equipment?  Or is it just a psycho-acustic thing.

 

If it's supposed to be like the first image, then I guess it'd be a nice way to do some tweeking to the rig.

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post #20 of 109
6/17/11 at 4:39pm
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Originally Posted by wind016 View Post

From what it seems with no offense implied, recessing the midrange creates the 1st image? Since it seems the Pro 900, AKG K701, and Grados have been reported to have the 1st image.



My first thought was due to driver type or housing design but since these all tie into how the sound spectrum is presented to the ear, it goes hand in hand with what you are saying. 

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post #21 of 109
6/17/11 at 4:39pm

K601's out of a Little Dot I+ sound like the second one.

 

I always did feel like certain sounds sounded too far to the side. Particularly with games, if I'm firing a weapon often time it will sound like it's coming from the far right.

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post #22 of 109
6/17/11 at 4:41pm
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The file is used to setup a stereo speaker setup. If set up 100% the 7 drums will be portrayed like the first graphic shows.

 

On any headphone, and any headphone amp, I´ve tried; the second graphic represents what I hear.

 

Bottom line: The file is NOT intended for head-fi, but merely stereo speakers. It is therefore quite interesting that some post that they perceive to hear graphic no. 1 via headphones. I´m not implying they hear wrong. I´m just quite baffled.

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post #23 of 109
6/17/11 at 4:45pm

I'm hearing the first picture

 

Setup is pretty simple

 

Grado SR60i connected to my Acer Aspire laptop which uses a ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250 sound card

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post #24 of 109
6/17/11 at 4:45pm
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My first thought was due to driver type or housing design but since these all tie into how the sound spectrum is presented to the ear, it goes hand in hand with what you are saying. 

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Originally Posted by wind016 View Post

From what it seems with no offense implied, recessing the midrange creates the 1st image? Since it seems the Pro 900, AKG K701, and Grados have been reported to have the 1st image.


I wonder which hardware feature exactly makes for the spatial awareness.

 

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post #25 of 109
6/17/11 at 5:07pm
First
cheap Cambridge Soundworks Computer Speakers
Grado SR80

Second
Shure 440
Beyerdynamics DT880/250 (though not quite as bad as the picture, the first and last are definitely further out.)
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post #26 of 109
6/17/11 at 5:10pm
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Originally Posted by Loevhagen View Post

The file is used to setup a stereo speaker setup. If set up 100% the 7 drums will be portrayed like the first graphic shows.

 

On any headphone, and any headphone amp, I´ve tried; the second graphic represents what I hear.

 

Bottom line: The file is NOT intended for head-fi, but merely stereo speakers. It is therefore quite interesting that some post that they perceive to hear graphic no. 1 via headphones. I´m not implying they hear wrong. I´m just quite baffled.


 

Ok, now I'm even more puzzled on why I listened to the first picture. I ran it a few times and the result was always the same. Could this result be related to the S-Logic Plus tech used by Ultrasone? I ask because it seems to go beyond mere decentralized drivers and psychoacoustic tweaks.

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post #27 of 109
6/17/11 at 5:10pm

Dang, now my headphones seem so deficient. Anybody got electrostatics to throw in the test?


Edited by wind016 - 6/17/11 at 5:12pm
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post #28 of 109
6/17/11 at 5:20pm
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I´ve used Stax SR-007mkII and SRM-007tmkII and the second graphic still prevails...sorry. I repeat that the file is not made for headphones.

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post #29 of 109
6/17/11 at 5:35pm

Yeah, it sounds much closer to the second picture with all my headphones (Z1000, HD580, IE8).

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post #30 of 109
6/17/11 at 5:43pm

JVC HA-RX700s sound like the 2nd picture.


Edited by cuad - 6/17/11 at 5:45pm
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