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post #16 of 59
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Have you actually tried the Cowon's BBE implementation? and no, I disagree that a permanent filter is better than a well implemented hardware EQ. Roll offs and imbalances in DACs are signs of terrible pieces of equipment


Edited by wind016 - 6/14/11 at 9:12pm
post #17 of 59

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Have you actually tried the Cowon's BBE implementation? and no, I disagree that a permanent filter is better than a well implemented hardware EQ.


No. Have you heard the HM-801?

 

BBE is a software EQ not hardware.

 

post #18 of 59
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No. Have you heard the HM-801?

 

BBE is a software EQ not hardware.

 



BBE is hardware based in the Cowon. And yes, I heard it at the meet. Nothing about it made me think it was better than a Cowon but I didn't try plugging an HE500 into my Cowon.


Edited by wind016 - 6/14/11 at 9:15pm
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BBE is hardware based in the Cowon. And yes, I heard it at the meet. Nothing about it made me think it was better than a Cowon but I didn't try plugging an HE500 into my Cowon.


A meet is not the best place to give a final conclusion on the sound performance of anything. Too noisy.

 

post #20 of 59
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A meet is not the best place to give a final conclusion on the sound performance of anything. Too noisy.

 


It's a portable player though...

 

post #21 of 59

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It's a portable player though...

 


Good point, and that's why I try my best to be in a quiet environment ( My office ) when I use it. Any other high end audio equipment will have a hard time showing it's abilities when there is a lot of unwanted noise masking it.

 

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Good point, and that's why I try my best to be in a quiet environment ( My office ) when I use it. Any other high end audio equipment will have a hard time showing it's abilities when there is a lot of unwanted noise masking it.

 

 

I guess if you wanted a device that could drive full sized headphones halfway decently that was also portable, the HM 801 would be a consideration but it's DAC is truely nothing spectacular for a home rig. For about the same price as the HM 801 though, you could probably end up buying a Cowon J3, a Shiit Lyr, and a decent DAC probably from the F/S forum.

 


Edited by wind016 - 6/14/11 at 9:46pm
post #23 of 59
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I guess if you wanted a device that could drive full sized headphones halfway decently that was also portable, the HM 801 would be a consideration but it's DAC is truely nothing spectacular for a home rig. For about the same price as the HM 801 though, you could probably end up buying a Cowon J3, a Shiit Lyr, and a decent DAC probably from the F/S forum.

 

Huh? The DAC's ( dual Burr Brown PCM1074UK DAC chips ) in the HM-801 is highly regarded as one the best DAC's to ever be used in desktop sized CD Players or external DAC's.

 

 

post #24 of 59

 

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Huh? The DAC's ( dual Burr Brown PCM1074UK DAC chips ) in the HM-801 is highly regarded as one the best DAC's to ever be used in desktop sized CD Players or external DAC's.

 

 


Really? My experience is very different and I have read many extremely contrasting opinions.

 

post #25 of 59

Once again, we get all bent out of shape over a few part numbers on a sliver of silicon. Implementation is way more important than the part number - ask Kevin Halvorsen or virtually any of the engineers at Marantz.

post #26 of 59

Well, I also meant the sound was sub-par for a home rig. Then again I'm only going with experience with my Anedio D1 which has a much bigger power supply, costs a lot more, and only does one thing.

post #27 of 59
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Well, I also meant the sound was sub-par for a home rig. Then again I'm only going with experience with my Anedio D1 which has a much bigger power supply, costs a lot more, and only does one thing.


Now THAT is a DAC. Gotta love project86's review - I dont know how he makes it seems to effortless.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/528473/review-anedio-d1-dac-my-new-reference-dac

 

 

 

post #28 of 59

Where did you get this info?  As I know, BBE is software based.
 

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BBE is hardware based in the Cowon. And yes, I heard it at the meet. Nothing about it made me think it was better than a Cowon but I didn't try plugging an HE500 into my Cowon.



 

post #29 of 59
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Its certainly a lot more attractive than the HiFiMan. wink.gif

 


I think you guys forgot the point of this topic. SQ!!! Should I say it again?? biggrin.gif

 

post #30 of 59
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Sony portable DAT recorder DTC-D3. What is my prize?biggrin.gif



TCD-D3 evil_smiley.gif

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