Overall Best SQ for Portable Player?
Jun 15, 2011 at 12:10 AM Post #16 of 59
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Have you actually tried the Cowon's BBE implementation? and no, I disagree that a permanent filter is better than a well implemented hardware EQ. Roll offs and imbalances in DACs are signs of terrible pieces of equipment
 
Jun 15, 2011 at 12:14 AM Post #18 of 59


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No. Have you heard the HM-801?
 
BBE is a software EQ not hardware.
 



BBE is hardware based in the Cowon. And yes, I heard it at the meet. Nothing about it made me think it was better than a Cowon but I didn't try plugging an HE500 into my Cowon.
 
Jun 15, 2011 at 12:44 AM Post #22 of 59
 
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Good point, and that's why I try my best to be in a quiet environment ( My office ) when I use it. Any other high end audio equipment will have a hard time showing it's abilities when there is a lot of unwanted noise masking it.
 

 
I guess if you wanted a device that could drive full sized headphones halfway decently that was also portable, the HM 801 would be a consideration but it's DAC is truely nothing spectacular for a home rig. For about the same price as the HM 801 though, you could probably end up buying a Cowon J3, a Shiit Lyr, and a decent DAC probably from the F/S forum.
 
 
Jun 15, 2011 at 1:01 AM Post #23 of 59


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I guess if you wanted a device that could drive full sized headphones halfway decently that was also portable, the HM 801 would be a consideration but it's DAC is truely nothing spectacular for a home rig. For about the same price as the HM 801 though, you could probably end up buying a Cowon J3, a Shiit Lyr, and a decent DAC probably from the F/S forum.
 

Huh? The DAC's ( dual Burr Brown PCM1074UK DAC chips ) in the HM-801 is highly regarded as one the best DAC's to ever be used in desktop sized CD Players or external DAC's.

 
 
 
Jun 15, 2011 at 1:12 AM Post #24 of 59
 
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Huh? The DAC's ( dual Burr Brown PCM1074UK DAC chips ) in the HM-801 is highly regarded as one the best DAC's to ever be used in desktop sized CD Players or external DAC's.

 
 


Really? My experience is very different and I have read many extremely contrasting opinions.
 
 
Jun 15, 2011 at 1:37 AM Post #25 of 59
Once again, we get all bent out of shape over a few part numbers on a sliver of silicon. Implementation is way more important than the part number - ask Kevin Halvorsen or virtually any of the engineers at Marantz.
 
Jun 15, 2011 at 2:46 AM Post #27 of 59


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Well, I also meant the sound was sub-par for a home rig. Then again I'm only going with experience with my Anedio D1 which has a much bigger power supply, costs a lot more, and only does one thing.


Now THAT is a DAC. Gotta love project86's review - I dont know how he makes it seems to effortless.
 
http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/528473/review-anedio-d1-dac-my-new-reference-dac
 
 
 
 
Jun 15, 2011 at 9:22 AM Post #28 of 59
Where did you get this info?  As I know, BBE is software based.
 
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BBE is hardware based in the Cowon. And yes, I heard it at the meet. Nothing about it made me think it was better than a Cowon but I didn't try plugging an HE500 into my Cowon.



 
 
Jun 15, 2011 at 1:31 PM Post #29 of 59


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Its certainly a lot more attractive than the HiFiMan.
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I think you guys forgot the point of this topic. SQ!!! Should I say it again?? 
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