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post #196 of 204
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Here is a cross post to one of the CEntrance HIFI-M8 threads regarding my recent (and rare) opportunities to sit down and listen to my ciems in a quiet calm environment, using the HIFI-M8.

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Now you just have to set up your speaker rig... :D

post #198 of 204
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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post

Now you just have to set up your speaker rig... biggrin.gif
Yup. I keep looking at those Fostex you mentioned. I need something SMALL for my desk, and cheap. Active or really efficient preferred.

I sure still like my HIFI-M8. It suits my needs real well right now.
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post #200 of 204
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Wow. I haven't been here in a while. A couple of notes - my 1964 Ears quads died. It turned out to be ear lube jell in ine of the tubes. During the repair, I also had them adjust the fit for a second time. They fit better than ever, and work good as new.

I also have an amb mini3 that drives even my Alpha dogs quite well.
Edited by aamefford - 8/25/14 at 5:26pm
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Hey aammefford, first off this is a really fun thread. I have a quick question for ya though: how do your quads compare to the Alpha Dogs? I'm having a hard time deciding between the 1964 Ears V3 and the Quads, and I've spent plenty of time with the Alpha Dogs so it's a good frame of reference.

 

Specifically the soundstaging and imaging, mids (for vocals), and bass (depth, quantity) if you don't mind. Thanks a million!!!

post #202 of 204
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@Wild, thank you for the kind words!  As to the Quads and Alphas; I've considered the question as well.  

 

I'll start with another point of reference - the Denon D7000's.  The Quads are the ciem version of the D7000's (at least to me).  The Quad's highs are detailed and articulate, the mids are not as scooped out as the Denons.  The bass has a really similar quality to the D7000's - powerful, robust, and bleeds into the mids a bit, which causes them to seem just a little scooped out.  The D7000's suffered a bit more from this.  Note that while this sounds pretty negative - it is not.  I loved the D7000's, and they have a cult following that has driven the used price way up.  The Quads have a similar warm, bass emphasized sound signature.  The bass is boosted on the quads - have no doubt about that.  It is boosted on the D7000 also.  Both are really enjoyable headphones.

 

Now the Alphas.  I've been listening to planers almost exclusively for the last year and half or more.  There is something that the planers have, that balanced armatures do not.  Some little bit of life and reality or something.  I didn't notice it missing so much when I was listening with dynamic headphones.  Pretty vague, hard for me to describe.  I'll leave it at that.

 

The Alphas are near neutral with a nod to the warm.  They are Dan's interpretation of neutral / reference / summit fi / accurate to live sound.  I love them, Dan hits my preferred sound sig right in the small circle on the bull's eye.  Not exact though.  I love the Oppo PM-1's.  I think Dan, not so much.

 

Anyway - the Alphas are not (or not nearly as much) bass boosted.  They have deep, powerful, fast bass when called for.  The mids are present and luscious.  The highs vary depending on the doggie treat tuning.  Mine started out a bit edgy in places, and with one dot and one disk each ear, are near perfect.

 

The Quads are less forward in the mids, and less present in the treble, but incrementally, not drastically.  The bass is boosted over the Alphas, and has a bit more decay, and spans a broader frequency range due to the boost.  Alphas are more accurate, quads are more fun.

 

If you love the Alphas and want to mimic the sound signature, I would consider what ever is the new 1964 ears version of the triple driver that came out with the original quads. Based on reviews I've read (@project86's is a good one) of the triple, and my experience with the Quads (remember, mine are the old version, not the "i"), the triple, or whatever 1964 Ears' is tuning to that signature, will be a closer match.  If you want a nice, bassier counterpoint, the quads are probably the choice.

 

My tastes have changed such that I kinda wish I had the triples now.  I lean to less bass boosted, but still euphonic sound signature.  That said, most of my listening to ciems is when I fly.  The added bass stands above the airplane drone nicely.

 

Hope that helps.  if you have more questions, I'm happy to keep this going.  It's fun to see this thread pop back to life once in a while.  I think I started it back in 2011 or so to chronicle my journey....

post #203 of 204
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Originally Posted by aamefford View Post
 

@Wild, thank you for the kind words!  As to the Quads and Alphas; I've considered the question as well.  

 

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Hope that helps.  if you have more questions, I'm happy to keep this going.  It's fun to see this thread pop back to life once in a while.  I think I started it back in 2011 or so to chronicle my journey....

 

 

No problem my friend! Just wanted to let you know that sometimes these old threads are still being read. Thanks for taking the time to describe the differences for me. I'm sure it'll help other people as well.

 

As for the Quads, I feel like I'm inclined to go with your recommendation (if you call it that) with the triple driver from 1964 Ears. I used to love a bass-heavy sound signature, but being around Head-Fi for as long as I have, I've started straying away from that and moving towards a more balanced sound. It's funny you mention the D7000, since I've owned them in the past, and loved them. I still am kicking myself for selling them, but now I mostly use my HE500 and K712. The triples, from reviews, seems to be more along those lines (warm with a moderate bass bump) than the Quads.

 

Also, 1964 Ears has since updated the Quads to the "Qi" version, which from the very few impressions around seems to have brought the bass down a notch and the mids/highs up one so its a more balanced sound (still bass-heavy though). Definitely interesting though.

 

Thanks again Aamefford. I'll update if I decide one way or the other. Should be soon either way :beerchug:

post #204 of 204
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It sounds like the Qi is even closer to the D7000. That said, I'd still head toward the triple driver and a more neutral signature these days. I had a chance to hear the universal demo of the UERM. I'm sort of saving up for a pair.

Aaron.
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