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post #1 of 9
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I am not an audio guy, but looking at the troubles you guys go through with all those expensive stuffs, obviously you guys can tell the difference. I'm just curious if everyone can tell the difference.

 

So far, I 'll have to conclude that I have never been able to tell the difference between looseless and MP3 at greater than 256kbps, I've tried many blind tests and I'd say I never got beyond chance. I use my computer which has the Creative X-Fi Extreme Music, and the Shure SRH-440 headphone, as well as ER MC5. I can kind of tell the difference between these two though, also the difference between the PC sound card and my phone which is the Samsung i8000, although I couldn't describe exactly what is different.

 

I never had good loud speakers which is probably why I couldn't tell if there is anything wrong with my cheap speakers, although they must suck simply because how cheap they are, the price of a small roll of speaker cable.

 

Also, foobar2000 doesn't really sound anything different from WMP to me, nor does ASIO or whatever versus KS and normal output. 

 

Anyway, when people talk about sound quality stuff, when they say oh MP3 sucks (I've given other people blind tests and it seems they could distinguish 320k CBR and looseless), or that the highs of that headphone is too flat or whatever, I'm kind of jelous that I couldn't tell any difference. Although I don't even think everyone is equal, but when it comes to my self I kinda let it slip and tend to think I don't have the bad ears.

 

Don't worry though, it's not like I can't sleep because I can't distinguish MP3 and FLAC, it's just that I came across this stuff today and wanted to ask. I'll forget about it soon enough

post #2 of 9
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Originally Posted by jacobgong View Post

I am not an audio guy, but looking at the troubles you guys go through with all those expensive stuffs, obviously you guys can tell the difference. I'm just curious if everyone can tell the difference.

 

So far, I 'll have to conclude that I have never been able to tell the difference between looseless and MP3 at greater than 256kbps, I've tried many blind tests and I'd say I never got beyond chance. I use my computer which has the Creative X-Fi Extreme Music, and the Shure SRH-440 headphone, as well as ER MC5. I can kind of tell the difference between these two though, also the difference between the PC sound card and my phone which is the Samsung i8000, although I couldn't describe exactly what is different.

 

I never had good loud speakers which is probably why I couldn't tell if there is anything wrong with my cheap speakers, although they must suck simply because how cheap they are, the price of a small roll of speaker cable.

 

Also, foobar2000 doesn't really sound anything different from WMP to me, nor does ASIO or whatever versus KS and normal output. 

 

Anyway, when people talk about sound quality stuff, when they say oh MP3 sucks (I've given other people blind tests and it seems they could distinguish 320k CBR and looseless), or that the highs of that headphone is too flat or whatever, I'm kind of jelous that I couldn't tell any difference. Although I don't even think everyone is equal, but when it comes to my self I kinda let it slip and tend to think I don't have the bad ears.

 

Don't worry though, it's not like I can't sleep because I can't distinguish MP3 and FLAC, it's just that I came across this stuff today and wanted to ask. I'll forget about it soon enough




Ya not an "audio guy" ... And ... You'll forgetaboutit soon enough even if one were to capsualise what otherwise is there own personal experience ; Ie time spent in the persuit of the hobby , reading and listening .

 

And yes, there is a difference in how most audio lovers "listen" as well .

 

 

post #3 of 9

Don't sweat it dude, I can't tell the difference between 128kbs mp3 and lossless (seriously) ahhaahahah. This hobby ain't about distinguishing between mp3 and lossless, forget about it.

 

One of the best pieces of advice you'll find here goes something like "only your ears matter".

Make sure you remember that, because it's no fun worrying about whether or not you can hear the same as someone else, is it?

 

I've probably broken every damn audiophile 'rule' around here, and I don't even care, you shouldn't either.

If you go to the zoo and a pack of monkeys are laughing at you, who's the one who should be laughing? =P

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Originally Posted by deadlylover View Post

 

If you go to the zoo and a pack of monkeys are laughing at you, who's the one who should be laughing? =P



Whoever taught the monkeys to laugh at people.

post #5 of 9

lol
 

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Whoever taught the monkeys to laugh at people.



 

post #6 of 9

I wouldn't sweat it.   I think those that are really well tuned and can point out the differences simply have more experience in looking for them.

post #7 of 9

Don't worry. Throughout my high school and college years, I listened to plastic boom boxes that were cheap. If I listened to headphones, it was those cheap free headphones that came with a portable CD player and I was happy!

 

Really the most important thing is to not be closed minded about music. There is a lot of great music out there and what bothers me most is people who still listen to the music they listened to in high school or the obvious popular stuff. Music is about evolution and moving further. 

 

Creativity and art is the first priority not technology. I remember going to lots of shows and listening to bad sounding bootlegs of bands and loving it. Love for the music is the most powerful feeling and living in the moment. Don't sweat the other stuff if you can't hear the difference. If you expose yourself for a couple years to the better quality sounds, you should be able to hear the difference as I learned. But if not, don't worry. Remember, Beethoven was deaf and was not likely an audiophile but his spirit was  so profound and powerful. It's the spirit of the melody that should be the focus.


Edited by Spareribs - 6/9/11 at 7:59pm
post #8 of 9

I believe most here would call you lucky! If you can't tell the difference, you won't be searching for those subtle-but-expensive improvements many here seek. Your audio journey will be shorter and less expensive. Your wallet will be thankful. 

post #9 of 9

I haven't done any extensive testing, but I don't think I can tell the difference between high bit-rate MP3s and lossless music files.

 

Speaking generally, I'm amazed by some of the in-depth and intense discussions I've read about what I can only imagine are the subtlest of details. People talk about golden ears, but I suspect being able to truly listen to what you're hearing, analysing it and picking out those subtleties are a big factor. I find myself in awe of some of the detailed and so well written reviews I've read on Head-Fi. I can't ever imagine being able to pin-point the character defining peaks and troughs in headphone's frequency response, for example. Being able to communicate that analysis in a way other people can interpret correctly is another talent too.

 

I think a lot of it is experience and having had exposure to a wide ride range of equipment, which act as reference points. I can obviously comment that I do or don't like the sound of something, but I don't feel confident going into much detail beyond that. Of course, I'm very happy listening to music through equipment which I think sounds good - and it's always a delight to invest in better equipment and experience the improvement - but it would be great, in time, to be able to define what makes it sound good, capture it, and draw comparison to other equipment - for the benefit of others if nothing else.

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