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post #106 of 146
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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post

Between those 2 for music production M50 would be the clear choice, PRO700MK2 is too colored. However if you want an alternative take a look also at http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/StudiophileQ40.html because I have a hard time to find anything that M50 would do better at than these, I think it's slightly better compared to M50 in every aspect, the bass is punchier, tighter, snappier, more textured and mids and highs sound more neutral and balanced. Dubstep is just awesome on these, it made me realize even dubstep can have more than one-note bass haha. It's anything but muddy but it's also not too bright or harsh, so therefore I'd call it neutral but with a bass boost but due to how well it handles bass it doesn't seem overly bassy at all. However I'd recommend some basic amping though to get the full potential out of them as then they get more dynamic and bass gets alive.

 

Forget the Crossfade LPs.

Thanks! I guess that helps me with my choices. I still like the design of the M50's and I have never had a high-end pair of headphones either. This would be my first and I don't have enough for an amp really
 

 

post #107 of 146
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Originally Posted by DanXbix View Post

i just got my 700mk2's wasn't sure of the sound at first. It felt like the mids were not as up front as i'm use too but they sound great with dub/dnb etc. i put on some m50 pads straight away so can't really compare to stock pad yet but will.  The bass is really fantastic and i am glad i purchased these cans. buying a Fiio e17 Dac so hopefully will improve the sound a little more. Do i need to burn in theses cans?

The mids and highs come out with burn in. Congrats on buying your first set of mobile subwoofers! They're amazing cans. I prefer the stock pads.
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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post



Are you gonna use that large headphones for portable use, PRO700MK2 and Q40 are quite large... especially Q40's cups are quite large, wouldn't be comfortable to keep around your neck at least. :P But at least they fold tho for easier transporting.

The straight cable included with the PRO700's (The "Street" Cable) is short. Quite shot. The coiled one is long. In terms of size? They're as big as I'll go for portables. They're no bigger than beats.

But I would never wear them around my neck, I think that's a terrible style no matter what size.
post #108 of 146

Came across this set of review and it's been a great help! I'm currently looking between the HFi-780s and the ATH M50s for a more travel-oriented usage.

 

Similar to the review, I don't expect an amp, but comfort is much more important to me. I don't care as much for bass, but all of the raving I have heard surrounding the 780's treble makes me very interested.

 

Considering this would be my entry into headphones outside of crummy $10 pairs, would the difference in sound make enough of a difference in the HFi 780s over the M50, or are the Ultrasones really so uncomfortable that I wouldn't be able to enjoy them during travel as much as I would the M50s? I may even use the minor sock mod to add a little comfort for the Audio Technicas. I can find them both right now for $155 new.

post #109 of 146

does anyone know if the mids/treble are warmer than the lp2 or the ms400

post #110 of 146

is it worth it to have both the M50 and the Pro700, I can sell my M50 for 80 to a friend and then buy the ANV version for 270, otherwise I will buy the stock Pro700mkii for 160 and keep the M50. Or should I buy the stock and sell the M50 to leave me some extra cash? Oh and comfort won't be a problem, I love clamping force,  I want even more than my HD25 XD, and my ears are small enough for the MS400 to go over all of my ear. 

post #111 of 146
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Originally Posted by WakiDabeast View Post

is it worth it to have both the M50 and the Pro700, I can sell my M50 for 80 to a friend and then buy the ANV version for 270, otherwise I will buy the stock Pro700mkii for 160 and keep the M50. Or should I buy the stock and sell the M50 to leave me some extra cash? Oh and comfort won't be a problem, I love clamping force,  I want even more than my HD25 XD, and my ears are small enough for the MS400 to go over all of my ear. 

 

I couldn't justify to myself to keep both, so I let the M50s go. Do I miss the M50s? A little. It's still the only pair of headphones that sound delicious for every music type that I like.

post #112 of 146

Hey guys,

 

The pro 700 mk2's are sold out here but the anniversary ones aren't. I have my heart set on them. What is really annoying is that no shop allows returns. So i don't want to spend 300 dollars and not be able to return. The reason I am worried about returning is this: I have been researching these for like 3 months and I have read every review on them. So many people say they are muddy and so many people say they are so far from it. I am so confused. This has happened to me before with headphones. I want the clean simple truth. Is it muddy or not.

 

One more thing - I heard someone say they really don't need an amp, is this true because I was debating between an E11 and a ZO both with and L9 LOD. Will this help???

 

Thanks 

 

Josh

post #113 of 146

Would the comfort of the Pro700mkii's be good for someone who likes clamping force and has small ears? 
and do you think they have these three things
-spacious clear mids 

-powerful bass

-smooth treble

I will be using these for jazz and a lot of bass heavy music.

Oh and is it worth a 100 dollar difference for the anniversary versions (260 vs 160)


Edited by WakiDabeast - 5/17/12 at 9:13pm
post #114 of 146

is it really worth keeping both the M50 and the pro700mkii?

 

damn it sorry, can't make my mind up on anything right now - - 

post #115 of 146

uggh, it's a hard one, personally, if you are in love like i am with my friends m50's then i wouldn't get new headphones. this might dissapoint but the difference isn't worth 70 dollars or however much. but since i never have had m50s and like bass so much i got thesse, and they sound better its just your choice if its worth the money. you will love the clamping force since it is more than the m50s, if you have small ears you might not need to get m50 pads, (bear in mind m50 pads make sound worth the extra money :::) ))) 

 

one more thing, i havn't listened to jazz on my pro700mk2's but i have a feeling it will not be good, the m50s are better for that. i was listening to a hanz zimmer song on the bus and i was very dissapointed. so based on the fact his music has similair sound spectrums to jazz i wouldn't be confident in getting pro700mk2 for something like miles davis... i still reckon they have all those three characteristics you mentioned but for some reason i have a feeling jazz will dissapoint. these (in my experience) are purely for dubstep house electro pop complextro, very bass heavy music, even hip hop and rap, some of ed sheerans stuff works but as for like "natural" music which isn't produced on a computer i think something like the "a team" is the most it can handle

 

and as i mentioned earlier, just know that if you have a zo.2.3, fiio l3 and m50 earpads, you will be absolutley blown away. maybe the m50 pads will make jazz good, not sure but if you need any other opions i would be glad to help

 

josh

post #116 of 146

oh forgot, the anniversary edtion pro700mk2 have a new and improved driver, i havnt heard the normal mk2's but i hear it is like the difference between the aniversay m50 and normal m50, in which there is a more controlled bass which doesnt fatigue ears, but there is more of it, the treble is more separating from everything else. and those sort of tweaks

post #117 of 146
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Originally Posted by Joshii View Post

uggh, it's a hard one, personally, if you are in love like i am with my friends m50's then i wouldn't get new headphones. this might dissapoint but the difference isn't worth 70 dollars or however much. but since i never have had m50s and like bass so much i got thesse, and they sound better its just your choice if its worth the money. you will love the clamping force since it is more than the m50s, if you have small ears you might not need to get m50 pads, (bear in mind m50 pads make sound worth the extra money :::) ))) 

 

one more thing, i havn't listened to jazz on my pro700mk2's but i have a feeling it will not be good, the m50s are better for that. i was listening to a hanz zimmer song on the bus and i was very dissapointed. so based on the fact his music has similair sound spectrums to jazz i wouldn't be confident in getting pro700mk2 for something like miles davis... i still reckon they have all those three characteristics you mentioned but for some reason i have a feeling jazz will dissapoint. these (in my experience) are purely for dubstep house electro pop complextro, very bass heavy music, even hip hop and rap, some of ed sheerans stuff works but as for like "natural" music which isn't produced on a computer i think something like the "a team" is the most it can handle

 

and as i mentioned earlier, just know that if you have a zo.2.3, fiio l3 and m50 earpads, you will be absolutley blown away. maybe the m50 pads will make jazz good, not sure but if you need any other opions i would be glad to help

 

josh

hmm I mean the Pro700mKII will be running 150 for me, I think I'll buy it and then go for a jazz iem

post #118 of 146

The PRO700mk2 is not muddy, but it can be warm and muggy on some tracks. It can easily solved by EQing 175-250Hz down by about 3-5dB.

Also, put some cotton in the crack between the pad and the mesh on the stock pads. The comfort of the headphone increases tenfold, and the sound stage improves quite a bit. The stock pads are actually far superior to the M50 pads in every way once you do this (given that your ears are small enough to fit inside the headphone, of course).


Edited by Tus-Chan - 5/22/12 at 1:45pm
post #119 of 146

Got the Pro700 Mk2's about two weeks ago. For the most part I love them. My ears didn't fit properly with small pads so I got some M50's. This is what I noticed after the switch. Much more comfortable, Bass seems more pronounced (as if it wasn't already) they really do sound like subs at this point. I listen to a lot of dub, dance, and variety of other things. As has been said, if you tone down the bass and lightly bump the mid-high area it seems to even out the sound for other genre's of music. A friend of my mine got the 580's around the same time. I let him listen to mine for awhile and he was bummed he got the 580's. FTR he is a bit of a bass head.
 

post #120 of 146
I would think ATH-M50 is a better headphone among 3 of them. It has the most balance sound. Although the bass is slightly lacking comparing toATH-Pro700MK2, others it win all the way. By adding an amp., it will make ATH-M50.a perfect headphone.
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