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post #601 of 832

Maybe, but that doesn't mean he should encourage others to pull them apart does it?

You seen and heard those DIY phones, or is this all talk over the web?

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Originally Posted by astrostar59 View Post
 

Hi Paradoxper

Confused by your response there? Those DIY phones are well DIY, not Stax units right?

 

If they are indeed genuine Stax 009 units moded, I apologize. BUT still totally keep by what I said,

I don't agree opening up those drivers. Either buy new ones and fit yourself, or send them for a repair.

Encouraging none tech users to open up such a highly precision item and so expensive, it is not good 

advice, sorry.

As many have said, Wachara is the man! (no different from the slew of DIY amps that aren't made by Stax ) Dude knows what he's doing. And he never encouraged anyone to open up their phones, he simply stated how recoating the diaphragm can fix the imbalance. 


Edited by paradoxper - 9/19/14 at 2:01pm
post #603 of 832
We have one of wachara's unit with us here in Tokyo as a matter of fact. You have to listen to this stuff to believe it, some of his cans don't particularly sound much worse than stax's very best, it's unbelievable.

Now about open a 009 electrode, I am rather in agreement with you actually. You can't imagine how much attention is paid at Stax to prevent inclusion of dust into the electrode (clean room, technician all dressed like a surgeon, big magnifier in hand to inspect each one of these partly assembled electrodes).

I recall the spacer gap is particularly small on the 009 (isn't it chinesettawong?), tiniest debris in there can cause issue I presume.

Arnaud
post #604 of 832

I see. So has he actually fixed one? A pair that has the imbalance?

And why would a new barely used 009 need recoating anyway? And how does he know

that is what is the problem?

 

I am not saying the dude is an idiot. Just I don't see his logic.

It has no sound basis, and is potentially leading owners up a garden path.

 

I am not a tech or pretend to know all about Stax drivers, but I am wondering if it may be static charge and damage occurring in transit or storage. Stax say they test the 009s for a week before shipping right?

 

Nobody will ever know what the reason is behind the imbalance because Stax will never admit it. It would be PR disaster. They need to drill down and erase the issue, as it is obviously starting to harm the image of the company. If it is indeed an early obvious fault (2 weeks use) and all users had bought via dealers and official importers, this issue would be almost invisible. It is only visible because people have tried to buy a grey import, then run into problems and are posting here for advice or beefing.

 

I do sympathise with those users, but would say to potential buyers, pay the full amount and buy from the dealer.

 

Mercedes go wrong, would you buy a grey import and have no dealer in your country to service it?

Would you go to another country for an operation knowing they would not have you back if you had complications?


Edited by astrostar59 - 9/19/14 at 2:15pm
post #605 of 832

Again, if you read his post he said recoating the diaphragm can often fix an imbalance. And again, this comes from firsthand experience working with electrostatic headphones. Get it?

And more importantly, this is all after the fact that Meraias has sent his phones into Stax multiple times.

 

And further clarification, there have been units sent to Stax for service, which they only tested - they did

not disassemble for inspection. So..


Edited by paradoxper - 9/19/14 at 4:23pm
post #606 of 832
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Originally Posted by arnaud View Post
You can't imagine how much attention is paid at Stax to prevent inclusion of dust into the electrode (clean room, technician all dressed like a surgeon, big magnifier in hand to inspect each one of these partly assembled electrodes).

BTW, I've seen a video of Martin Logan factory...somehow shocking, nothing special aboust dust, workers are setting driver film with dirty hands, etc...


Ali

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Originally Posted by paradoxper View Post

Gotta agree. Julian do your homework before opening your mouth, bud.
Ok with my mod hat off, I have to admit that has given me a chuckle to what has so far started to be a bad Saturday morning. Thx. I needed that humor.

Astrostar59, you're not going to be able to argue your way out of this one smily_headphones1.gif. Wachara is really one of the Stax gurus (furthermore polite & humble if I may add!!). If he says something I may not necessarily go out and do it but I definitely give it some serious thought, respect & appreciate his advice.
post #608 of 832

Well all I can say David is either the Yen/Pound exchange rate customs was working on at the time was very favourable or the figure you quoted in pounds is incorrect

The figures I stated are calculated the same for everyone. If I'm purchasing anything from outside the EU I add on 25% to cover all the charges. It might be a few pounds less or more either way but nothing substantial.

There is an on line calculation tool that helps you work all this out which has the current rules, categories and exchange rates http://www.dutycalculator.com/new-import-duty-and-tax-calculation/ I have found this to be pretty accurate.  I have run the figures you provided through a few seconds ago and added £50 to cover shipping insurance and the total landed cost would be £2565.60 plus the £14 admin fee

 Duty: £41.92
- VAT: £427.60
Total import duty & taxes due: £469.52

 

 

 

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@ complin, as I say I won't mention how much import VAT I paid, but it wasn't anywhere near £500.
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I think it's to do with the honest mistakes that some exporters seem to make quite frequently where the declared value of the goods ends up being substantially less than the actual value - obviously just not very good with their maths. I'm surprised that customs don't more regularly compare the declared value against the insured value. Maybe they just have bigger fish to fry? Or maybe the insured value has the same mistake, which is kinda unhelpful if an issue occurs during shipping.

 

Bigger name companies tend to employ staff who are better at maths, resulting in higher duty charges, so not really a level playing field when comparing prices.

post #610 of 832

Most reputable retailers will not under declare the value as they are liable to prosecution

Also if you want to insure the item against loss and damage you cannot have a different figure from the declared value. So if you do get the retailer to declare a $3000 item as $1500 then if there is a problem you will only get back that figure or proportion of leaving you with a big loss. Fine to take the risk with something costing a couple of hundred dollars but headphones valued @ $3000? 

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I think it's to do with the honest mistakes that some exporters seem to make quite frequently where the declared value of the goods ends up being substantially less than the actual value - obviously just not very good with their maths. I'm surprised that customs don't more regularly compare the declared value against the insured value. Maybe they just have bigger fish to fry? Or maybe the insured value has the same mistake, which is kinda unhelpful if an issue occurs during shipping.

 

Bigger name companies tend to employ staff who are better at maths, resulting in higher duty charges, so not really a level playing field when comparing prices.

post #611 of 832
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Originally Posted by TheAttorney View Post
 

I think it's to do with the honest mistakes that some exporters seem to make quite frequently where the declared value of the goods ends up being substantially less than the actual value - obviously just not very good with their maths. I'm surprised that customs don't more regularly compare the declared value against the insured value. Maybe they just have bigger fish to fry? Or maybe the insured value has the same mistake, which is kinda unhelpful if an issue occurs during shipping.

 

Bigger name companies tend to employ staff who are better at maths, resulting in higher duty charges, so not really a level playing field when comparing prices.

Nicely worded. :wink:

post #612 of 832
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But what if you don't ask the retailer to declare a lower value and the goods show up being valued much lower due to an honest mistake in exchange rates or something?

post #613 of 832
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post

Buying from an official distributor OTOH I'd expect them to see through your problem is fixed completely.
To be blunt, they'd better. I was at a Stax seller's shop in Tokyo earlier today. The SR-009 sells there for ¥323,000, including the current 8% consumption tax in Japan. At the current exchange rate, it's around $2960 (US dollars). In the US, dealers want $4450, an eye-watering 33% more. Even deducting around $300 for tariffs and shipping, US Stax distributors and dealers pocket a huge premium over dealers in Japan — certainly far too much for a two-month wait for service to be acceptable (as referenced earlier on this thread).
post #614 of 832

In France, SR-009 costs a proud 7000 $ (5500 €)...

 

Ali

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Cost of living is that high in France?
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