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post #121 of 387

These were odd finds.

 

 

And the original Vocaloid songs:

 

 

-- Griffinhart

post #122 of 387
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These were odd finds.


That sure was...unusual...

post #123 of 387

Well I recently uploaded these two tracks processed through my custom foobar2000 Dolby Headphone config to enhance the soundstage.

 

 

Tell me what you think. :)


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 7/16/11 at 6:43am
post #124 of 387
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Well I recently uploaded these two tracks processed through my custom foobar2000 Dolby Headphone config to enhance the soundstage.

 

Tell me what you think. :)

 

They sound wonky on the O2's, I don't think it plays very nice with DH for some reason. Probably because it can already portray depth easily, and all DH does is make things fuzzy. It doesn't sound too bad on the lambda's though, weird eh?

 

 


 

 

post #125 of 387

Yea well it seems like I may have left my soundcard EQ active while recording which settings is also picked up into the recording so may have to redo it without those, still the EQ settings in that case were so tiny it shouldn't make a lot of audible difference if there's +~1.0 added to the mid / treblerange, well perhaps a bit. I also did another unnecessary thing and boosted the volume by ~0.5dB or so after the recording as I saw there were some room before clipping occurs but now they got rather hot (loud) sounding compared to most other songs so I'd probably not do that either.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 7/16/11 at 1:16pm
post #126 of 387
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They sound wonky on the O2's, I don't think it plays very nice with DH for some reason. Probably because it can already portray depth easily, and all DH does is make things fuzzy. It doesn't sound too bad on the lambda's though, weird eh?


That sort of stuff is very individual.  With RGPWizard's setup you've got to tweak it to you ears and your 'phones for best results.  It does sound quite good with my modded T50RPs though.  I think I heard a little bit of clipping in the second one.  No idea if its in the original though...

post #127 of 387

That makes sense, it does sound very lovely on the lambda's, it doesn't have any of the fuzziness than with the O2's. These things are significantly brighter and have an airier soundstage, so it probably plays nicely with them fancy effects.

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That makes sense, it does sound very lovely on the lambda's, it doesn't have any of the fuzziness than with the O2's. These things are significantly brighter and have an airier soundstage, so it probably plays nicely with them fancy effects.


It probably depends on a lot of factors.  While my T50RPs have a very nice soundstage for being closed 'phones I'd hardly call them airy or bright.

post #129 of 387
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That sort of stuff is very individual.  With RGPWizard's setup you've got to tweak it to you ears and your 'phones for best results.  It does sound quite good with my modded T50RPs though.  I think I heard a little bit of clipping in the second one.  No idea if its in the original though...


Yea you're right, especially at the middle part when the song calms down and you only hear the acoustic instrument which shouldn't clip. I didn't listen carefully enough to that track as I assumed they both were recorded roughly the same but it turns out to be not the case and I think I boosted the volume by 0.65dB or so after having recorded it. Oh well I probably redo them anyways with soundcard EQ disabled + without boosting the volume for the recording.

 

And yes even if I disable my soundcard's EQ (which was tweaked for my XB500) it won't completely have the same frequency response balance as the original as Dolby Headphone alters the frequency balance quite a bit in the lows (which I think I've fixed quite well in that setting I used) but the mid / treblerange sounds still a bit different but reasonably close. I've used Electri-Q and tried adjusting by ears to get as close to the same frequency balance as possible as not using dolby headphone but it's really a difficult task and this is why it might sound better on some headphones than others. Without the adjustments applied the bass would be a lot more overhelming and the treblerange more veiled.

 


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 7/16/11 at 2:24pm
post #130 of 387

Can I confirm that I'm supposed to be hearing it as if the sounds are originating from in front of me? I've got the original song as well, and that's the difference I hear with the DH version on the Lambda's.

 

On the O2's, Miku is pretty much already 'doing that' on the original version because of O2 trickery. Some of the other effects/instruments do move place to in front of me though in the DH version, as expected.

 

But Miku decides to cast level 3 confusion on me, it's bloody nauseating trying to lock onto her vocals. She shifts sizes and locations slightly every time she says something different, so it's in focus and then suddenly out of focus a split second later. And when I thought it couldn't get any worse, she uses some kind of phantom illusion technique sporadically, it's the sonic equivalent of having sudden bursts of double/triple vision with short duration lingering phantom images.

 

None of that really happens with the Lambda's, as she stays steadily diffuse and calm throughout the whole encounter.

 

My head hurts, I really should stop listening to that second song.

post #131 of 387

Well here's the "fixed" uploads (disabled soundcard EQ and slightly lower volume). I've still left the old ones there so you can compare to those if you wish.

 

 

Does this sound better to you? At least the distortion in the 2nd song should be gone now. Thanks for your input btw, it's useful to me.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 7/16/11 at 3:41pm
post #132 of 387

It sounds pretty much the same after I volume match, your EQ was certainly very light indeed.

 

I think it's just the O2 ballsing it up, since everything seems fine on the Lambda's.

post #133 of 387
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It sounds pretty much the same after I volume match, your EQ was certainly very light indeed.

 

I think it's just the O2 ballsing it up, since everything seems fine on the Lambda's.

 

Might be catastrophic incompatibility with the voicing.

 

I do notice her voice moves around a little bit with my T50RPs but it doesn't really sound bad, more like she's actually a live person and not standing dead still like a robot while she sings.

post #134 of 387

The imaging seems sharper with my Beyer DT1350s, which is the opposite of normal.  I think its just because the overall stage is smaller though.

post #135 of 387

Do. Not. Pull. Aggro.

 

Or else she gonna go all Morpheus on you.

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