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Denon D2000 or Sennheiser HD598?

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
I've decided to buy a good pair of headphones and I've done quite a bit of research. I've narrowed my choices down to two different pairs - the Denon D2000s and the Sennheiser HD598s. For me sound quality and the physical feeling of the headphones are important. (I want them to feel high-end, you know what I mean?). I listen to mostly electronica, mashup and indie music. So which of the two do you think would be better? Do you have experience with either of them?
Thanks.
Oh and I would be listening to these unamped most of the time.
Edited by adriantannerisb - 5/6/11 at 1:48pm
post #2 of 21

I own the 595 (nearly identical to the 598, save the removable cable) and the d2000.  For sound quality in electronica (my primary genre), I would say the 2000's win hands down.  The Senns excel at crisp airy sounds, which you don't find much of in this music.  The 595's are a little light on bass as well.  The d2000 on the other hand put out absolutely amazing sound for electronica, better than almost everything else I've heard.

 

I think you may be disapointed with the high end feel of either product though.  The Senns are very flexible, and while they seem to hold up pretty well, they just don't have that "solid" feel you would expect.  The Denons feel very flimsy, and are largely considered to be a "stay at home" can.  I would never wear these things outside, nor in any setting where I needed to move my head regularly.

 

Based on what you've said here, I think you may want to give the Phiaton MS400 a look.  They may be more in line with what you are looking for.  If you can scrape together a bit more cash, the Ultrasone pro line is probably perfect for you, but you're looking at a 300+ market at that point.

post #3 of 21

I disagree with that statement but we may just have very different standards.  With the exception of the cups, nothing on them is plastic -- that to me puts them a cut above many headphones.  Additionally, they're considered a "stay home" headphone because of their ridiculously long (and hard to deal with) cord, not due to their construction.

   
 

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Originally Posted by morph2k4 View Post

I own the 595 (nearly identical to the 598, save the removable cable) and the d2000.  For sound quality in electronica (my primary genre), I would say the 2000's win hands down.  The Senns excel at crisp airy sounds, which you don't find much of in this music.  The 595's are a little light on bass as well.  The d2000 on the other hand put out absolutely amazing sound for electronica, better than almost everything else I've heard.

 

I think you may be disapointed with the high end feel of either product though.  The Senns are very flexible, and while they seem to hold up pretty well, they just don't have that "solid" feel you would expect.  The Denons feel very flimsy, and are largely considered to be a "stay at home" can.  I would never wear these things outside, nor in any setting where I needed to move my head regularly.

 

Based on what you've said here, I think you may want to give the Phiaton MS400 a look.  They may be more in line with what you are looking for.  If you can scrape together a bit more cash, the Ultrasone pro line is probably perfect for you, but you're looking at a 300+ market at that point.



 

post #4 of 21

I don't think the 595 is identical to the 598.
 

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Originally Posted by morph2k4 View Post

I own the 595 (nearly identical to the 598, save the removable cable) and the d2000.  For sound quality in electronica (my primary genre), I would say the 2000's win hands down.  The Senns excel at crisp airy sounds, which you don't find much of in this music.  The 595's are a little light on bass as well.  The d2000 on the other hand put out absolutely amazing sound for electronica, better than almost everything else I've heard.

 

I think you may be disapointed with the high end feel of either product though.  The Senns are very flexible, and while they seem to hold up pretty well, they just don't have that "solid" feel you would expect.  The Denons feel very flimsy, and are largely considered to be a "stay at home" can.  I would never wear these things outside, nor in any setting where I needed to move my head regularly.

 

Based on what you've said here, I think you may want to give the Phiaton MS400 a look.  They may be more in line with what you are looking for.  If you can scrape together a bit more cash, the Ultrasone pro line is probably perfect for you, but you're looking at a 300+ market at that point.


For a more natural, airy spacious sound, go for the 598.

 

For a more club feel from your music, go for Denon.

 

post #5 of 21

Do you like bass or natural music?

post #6 of 21

The d2000 cups themselves are very nice, but the cup forks and the headband are flimsy and poorly designed as far as I'm concerned.  They barely stay on my head.  The cable is the least of my concerns for portability.

post #7 of 21
Thread Starter 

Interesting. It's hard to tell the flimsyness of a pair of headphones just by looking, but I thought the D2000s looked pretty solidly constructed. I looked into the Ultrasone Pros, the 750 in particular, and they seem nice, but a bit plasticky. However, maybe my eyes are fooling me again. What do you think are the highest-quality feeling headphones for around $300?

Quote:
Originally Posted by morph2k4 View Post

I own the 595 (nearly identical to the 598, save the removable cable) and the d2000.  For sound quality in electronica (my primary genre), I would say the 2000's win hands down.  The Senns excel at crisp airy sounds, which you don't find much of in this music.  The 595's are a little light on bass as well.  The d2000 on the other hand put out absolutely amazing sound for electronica, better than almost everything else I've heard.

 

I think you may be disapointed with the high end feel of either product though.  The Senns are very flexible, and while they seem to hold up pretty well, they just don't have that "solid" feel you would expect.  The Denons feel very flimsy, and are largely considered to be a "stay at home" can.  I would never wear these things outside, nor in any setting where I needed to move my head regularly.

 

Based on what you've said here, I think you may want to give the Phiaton MS400 a look.  They may be more in line with what you are looking for.  If you can scrape together a bit more cash, the Ultrasone pro line is probably perfect for you, but you're looking at a 300+ market at that point.



 


Edited by adriantannerisb - 5/6/11 at 11:47pm
post #8 of 21
Thread Starter 

OK, I've done some more research and I've changed my mind. Right now I'm very close to buying the AKG K702 headphones. So does anyone have any bad experiences with these headphones, or any warnings?  

post #9 of 21

I had them for a while, they were way too dry for the proper enjoyment of music. Analysing imperfections of recording yes, actual listening to the music - no.

post #10 of 21
Thread Starter 

Darn - I was really close to buying them, they seemed so perfect. Are the AKG K601s less dry? I know they're a cheaper model, but could that mean that they don't have the same extreme detail that caused  the dryness? Or what do you think is a good pair of headphones, that feels very high-end?

post #11 of 21
Since you have S4, i think you'll love D2000. D2000 is v shaped eq hp with bass thump and clear hi., which goes great with music with beats. HD598 is smooth and more polite. Yes, I own both.
post #12 of 21
Thread Starter 

Now I feel like kid in a candy shop who can't decide what to buy, and then his parents get angry at him because he is taking too long to decide what to buy. blink.gif

Well I'm feeling a bit muddled, because there are so many models I am considering.

The full list, in a very loose order of how close I am to buying them:

  • AKG K702
  • Shure SRH840
  • Denon D2000
  • Phiaton MS400
  • Sennheiser HD598

I know I'm being indecisive and annoying, but I have 2 more questions:

  1. Which of these 5 is best-constructed (high end feeling)?
  2. And which of these has best sound overall?
post #13 of 21

D2000 every time for me! wink.gif

post #14 of 21

Out of what you've listed there I'd also opt for the Denon.

 

Also just to throw this out there, if you want well constructed feel high end headphones with plenty of bass and yet with a wide airy soundstage - ie not boxed in sounding - have you considered the Beyer DT 990 Pro ?  They don't get that much love here, people say the treble is/can be harsh but in my opinion for me it's an overstated statement.....they've steel frames, comfortable, plenty of bass, also wide and airy sounding with plenty of detail. Actually made in Germany too. Unlike the Sennheiser HD650 which is made in Ireland if I'm not mistaken. 

 

Just thought I'd name drop there, since you seem to be in the same boat I was in and the DT990 Pro nailed it for me on bass, look and feel. Another option (perhaps better for you) might be the Beyer DT 770 Pro (80ohm) supposedly bass cannons and same build quality as the DT 990 Pro from the looks of things.

 

I'd be tempted with the Denon though - in fact I was lol! This close but it was about 100 dearer than I could justify at the time....

post #15 of 21
Thread Starter 

Well I'm mostly settled on the Denons (for now...) but then I think about the AKGs and I go back and forth...

Comfort or detail?

Classic or futuristic design?

Back and forth...

 

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