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Originally Posted by DarKen23 View Post

And neither should you.

Everyone hears things differently with an infinite variation of equipment. Why can't you respect his opinion and move on?
You must not understand the commentary in the context it was intended. If you go back a few posts, I'm in agreement with both Grunter and Mike about cables. The warning is a friendly commentary based on my experiences in those forums.

So put your bullet away Barney.
post #452 of 644
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Originally Posted by Happy Camper View Post
 
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Originally Posted by DarKen23 View Post

And neither should you.

Everyone hears things differently with an infinite variation of equipment. Why can't you respect his opinion and move on?
You must not understand the commentary in the context it was intended. If you go back a few posts, I'm in agreement with both Grunter and Mike about cables. The warning is a friendly commentary based on my experiences in those forums.

So put your bullet away Barney.

Call me Barney again

post #453 of 644

I'll be your huckleberry...

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Thanks for the advice, HC.  I'm well aware of intolerance from the "objectivist" camp. It so happens that I'm a scientist myself, with several published papers in statistics. I once took the time to demonstrate to one of those objectivists online that his stringent limits on "Type I" error (= wrongly inferring an effect) caused the probability of "Type II" error (= wrongly missing an effect) to be overwhelming. But I don't spend a lot of time trying to convince the unconvinceable. Why should I care what they think?

 

It seems to me that cables make far less difference with today's DACs. When I change S/PDIF cables on my PS Audio PWD II, I can't hear a difference. Not that I've tried many of them -- but the ones I tried gave different sounds on an older unit.

 

Mike

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Do understand that I was implying levity in my commentary. The fervor of their intent to discredit anybody stating their claim of hearing differences in cables gets rather overbearing.

Hows the Hilo burning in? tongue.gif
post #456 of 644

any experience in using the hilo with the ipad?

 

i would like to avoid a macbook pro or caps server and would like to know if the sound quality from an ipad connected to the hilo would give great results in sound and convenience (playback software, libary management of a wifi drive)

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Originally Posted by Happy Camper View Post

Do understand that I was implying levity in my commentary. The fervor of their intent to discredit anybody stating their claim of hearing differences in cables gets rather overbearing.

Hows the Hilo burning in? tongue.gif


I understand, and understood, your comment. It's not the first time I've run into closed minded rationality.

 

The Hilo is outstanding. Today, the TRS-to-XLR adapters arrived from Lynx and I tried the Hilo in my main system:

 

flac files > Ethernet > Simaudio MiND receiver > Hilo > Bryston 14B SST > Revel Ultima Studio

 

Even using the Hilo's monitor output, which I understand is second-best, the Hilo outclassed the DAC I have been using (a current and well reviewed $4k high-end product). To my ears, the Hilo is more neutral, its treble is cleaner, and its bass is better defined.

 

I think I'll try the Hilo's main outputs now, and use the input routing page to set level. If I didn't need remote volume control, I'd leave it plugged into the main system.

 

I hope all's well with you & that you are enjoying music.

 

Mike

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The Simaudio gear was impressive when I auditioned it (I600, 220 & 340i), but the A/V store I use dropped the line in favor of the Ayre lineup. I'm looking forward to hearing the AX-5 when it comes in next month. Otherwise, music is my dope and I'm high enjoying such a pure buzz. Like most here, I'm glad I found this gem of a box at the price. For it to not be so cutting edge as today's DACs, it's sound is pretty good.
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HC, The Simaudio MiND is an Ethernet to AES-EBU and SPDIF converter -- a UPnP "renderer" without a DAC. It does its job well, if not perfectly (gapless OK, but no seeking within a track).

 

I've not had the opportunity to listen to Simaudio or Ayre gear with analog sections. The dealers near here have terrible demo rooms: noisy, not treated acoustically, and so on.

 

Last night, I ran the Hilo's line outputs into my main system, and I was dumbstruck at how much better it is than my other DAC -- which lists for nearly twice as much (I got it used). To my ears, DACs have improved in the last few years.

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I am super intrigued about this unit!  It's a perfect mix of a product that was designed for pro use but great for home use providing a great deal as well.  My only concern is when is the next version coming out?  Or if I understand with these pro units it's more common for them to last 4-5 years?  

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I am super intrigued about this unit!  It's a perfect mix of a product that was designed for pro use but great for home use providing a great deal as well.  My only concern is when is the next version coming out?  Or if I understand with these pro units it's more common for them to last 4-5 years?  
It's only a couple years since release and they've updated the software twice. I'm not an insider but this was a one of a kind from Lynx so I'd not begin to guess on their development/release plans. They are offering a Thunderbolt Lslot expansion card for field upgrade or order at time of purchase. The pricing offered Head Fi members would not include that though. You'd have to contact Scott for pricing.
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Originally Posted by vnmslsrbms View Post
 

I am super intrigued about this unit!  It's a perfect mix of a product that was designed for pro use but great for home use providing a great deal as well.  My only concern is when is the next version coming out?  Or if I understand with these pro units it's more common for them to last 4-5 years?  


The message from the Lynx Forum announcing shipping:

 

Posted: February/29/2012 at 1:56pm Lynx Studio Technology is pleased to announce that the new Hilo Reference A/D D/A converter system is now shipping.  Due to overwhelming demand, we will be filling back-orders on a first come-first served basis for the foreseeable future.

 

As HC said, the Hilo as a model is less than 2 years ago. Reviews from pros and home users have been quite positive, so I'd be very surprised if it was superceded any time soon. I know I'm delighted with mine. The only shortcomings I can see for some home users are lack of remote control and lack of analog volume control on the highest-quality audio output. Not that the monitor and phones outputs, which do have volume control, are bad -- quite the contrary.

 

HTH

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For anybody interested, there is a black unit up for sell in the source forum in the EU (France).
post #464 of 644

How much sonic improvement will Hilo get from external DC Power  and  USB->AES  converter?

 

From this post

http://erji.net/read.php?tid=1520893&fpage=0&toread=&page=1

It seems a good linear DC power will dramatically improve the sound quality,   and Lynx's USB interface is 'junk'.

 

Anyone tried external DC power supply (e.g. Battery pack or Linear DC power supply)?    Do you hear substantial sound improvement?    

And how is the USB compared to dedicated USB->AES converter?

post #465 of 644
I asked that question to the designer at Lynx and was told that they did extensive testing between the power supply and DC and could not find any improvement in the DC power feed.

I only used two converter feeds and neither were any better than the USB on the Hilo. Neither were big dollar converters. One was the HiFace stock and the other I can't recall the name of but was a 192/24 converter. I get drops very rarely with the Hilo but recall getting more from the HiFace.

I would like to hear from those that have tried both. The XMOS USB with reclocking data is the current technology but perhaps an Offramp 5 at more than the cost of the Hilo could do better.
Edited by Happy Camper - 11/18/13 at 6:41pm
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