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post #256 of 621

At the kind of prices they've been charging for Hi Rez stuff I'd just buy the LP and needle drop it. :D

 

Also, if DSD is what it takes to get a quality master, I'm up for it. I honestly think it's the only thing that matters.

 

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Originally Posted by mrcasey View Post

One caveat:  I have Red Book files that sound spectacular, better even than some 24/192 files.  IMHO nothing beats or can have as much of an influence on a SQ as good recording technique and mastering practices.  The DSD albums that I have download were all developed with audiophile quality sound as the end goal.  Excellent dynamic range.  No "loudness wars going on".  There is definitely a need to turn up the volume as compared to most modern CD releases.  This could be affecting what I perceive as an improvement in SQ with DSD.

post #257 of 621
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Originally Posted by mrcasey View Post

One caveat:  I have Red Book files that sound spectacular, better even than some 24/192 files.  IMHO nothing beats or can have as much of an influence on a SQ as good recording technique and mastering practices.  The DSD albums that I have download were all developed with audiophile quality sound as the end goal.  They have outstanding dynamic range.  Very natural sounding.  No "loudness wars"going on here.  There is definitely a need to turn up the volume as compared to most modern CD releases.  This could be affecting what I perceive as an improvement in SQ with DSD.

 

 

Can you shoot me a link to where you're getting the downloads from?

 

Thanks

post #258 of 621

Blue Coast Records:

 

http://bluecoastrecords.com/

 

Downloads NOW (sister site to Blue Coast records):

 

http://downloadsnow.net/

 

Channel Classics Records:

 

http://www.channelclassics.com/

 

2L (approx.18 free DSD downloads to try out):

 

http://www.2l.no/

post #259 of 621

Thanks.  I had at least one of those.  2L biggrin.gif

post #260 of 621

No problem.  There is definitely a limited selection of genre right now.  Fortunately for me these sites sell what I like.  Blue Coast has a good selection of acoustic/folk and some jazz.

 

There are a few other sites around but they are German and Japanese and I am unfamiliar with most of the music so I have not retried them.

 

All sites have provided excellent customer service when I needed it.

 

Channel Classics has a download manager which is handy.  Blue Coast and Downloads NOW provide you with a link to all the songs from an album you just purchased which you have to download manually. 

 

I have not downloaded an entire album from 2L yet, just the free stuff.  I will give 2L a try soon for an entire album.  Also, it is my understanding that the Hilo does not play DSD 128 so make sure you choose DSD 64 from titles on 2L's website.

 

Tagging is good with all sites.  I had to tweak a few things when importing to JRiver but this did not pose any great difficulty.

 

Due to the cost of DSD titles your C. Card will likely need a cooling off period between downloads. J


Edited by mrcasey - 3/24/13 at 10:46am
post #261 of 621
I took a spin with the NAD M51 over the last two weeks. Got to listen to it for the first week and then did some comparisons on songs with the Hilo. This isn't going to be good for anything other than one person's opinion.

I'm setting a rig up to feed the HE-6. As I've got to learn the headphone, I can say they thrive with a highly resolving DAC as planars have their way of sounding compared to say the HD 800. I've heard the 800s on some DACs that sounded like nails on a chalkboard and more suited for the LCDs. So I really like how the Hilo sounds on the 6s. I think the M51 would be better suited for the HD-800.

The M51 is worth it's weight. Initial listening I could hear a full, detailed sound. It handled all material without much change in presentation. I felt it technically competent and musical with a bit darker presentation than the Hilo.

My material was live concerts and various favorites in the classic rock and progressive rock genre from the 70s-90s.

The comparisons brought to my attention what I was feeling with my general listening sessions. The M51 was not as broad in soundstage and didn't have the top end liveliness. The M51 bass was a little less refined but had a bit more impact. Listening to live recordings, the Hilo just presented a more realistic sound. The last song I compared (Bruce Springsteen Live in NY doing "If I Should Fall Behind") I found the Hilo more compassionate and emotional to the point that I stopped comparing and just wanted to listen.

A comment on the bass. I use ELP "Lucky Man" as a fav listen because the Moog organ drops pretty low and I've used this song for a lot of my trials. In that listen, the M51 presented a non focused saturation of low end sound opposed to the growl at the bottom. It's a rare unit that can resolve it fully but the Hilo has come the closest.

Zoe Keating's "Into the Woods" release "The Path" features her Cello and the interplay between the strings and body resonances make a fun listen.
Anyway, that's a simple review and certainly not worth making a purchasing decision on. But so far, I've preferred the Hilo to the Anedio D2 and now the NAD M51. The Anedio was strong but lacked some low mid fullness the Hilo offered. Up next, a break for listening until the Buffalo comes in at preproman's. Then two of the Buffalo III, PWD II and A gd Master 7 come here and the Hilo goes to preproman.
post #262 of 621
Good. Thanks.

Where did you post your impressions of Hilo vs Anedio? Did you use the same tracks and method?

TIA
post #263 of 621

I would like to see impressions between Hilo vs Master 7 vs Hex...popcorn.gif 

 

good music happy camper 


Edited by knopi - 4/3/13 at 4:43am
post #264 of 621
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Originally Posted by knopi View Post

I would like to see impressions between Hilo vs Master 7 vs Hex...popcorn.gif 

 

good music happy camper 

 

 

HEX..  I would like to see any impressions on that..   If you see any knopi please point me in that direction.  I'm very interested in it as well. 

post #265 of 621
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HEX..  I would like to see any impressions on that..   If you see any knopi please point me in that direction.  I'm very interested in it as well. 


you can always read about it on 6moons! biggrin.gif john darko weighed in there as well

post #266 of 621
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Originally Posted by AiDee View Post

Good. Thanks.

Where did you post your impressions of Hilo vs Anedio? Did you use the same tracks and method?

TIA
I should qualify my statement on the D2. The only direct comparison I've done with the D2 was done with too short of time and no a/b. I am a highs fan and I like the D2 to the point I had requested preorder. But in my reviews of it, I found the Hilo thread and got interested in it's digital frontend and am glad I gave it a shot. It may not end up being the best overall or trump in any meaningful category but I respect it's honest performance so far. I understand the Buffalo mods are being addressed by weekend so soon.
post #267 of 621
Thanks for clarifying HC. The comment was just made in the D2 thread that the D2's bass seems less than the D1's but is in fact cleaner - this a comparison of USB.

I wonder if this could relate in some way to the lack of lower mids fullness you mentioned?

Hilo sure sounds like a capable dac (and more).
post #268 of 621

been researching the Lynx Hilo and BMC Pure DAC among others to add to my computer rig.  have grado ms2i and dynaudio dbm50 monitors.  I prefer to do as much listening through the monitors as possible (vs headphones). so I am definitely putting a premium on the monitor driving capabilities of the DAC to add to my rig...

 

so i'm not trying to troll the thread but wondering if any of y'all Lynx Hilo owners are considering switching over to a different DAC in the same price point or if the Hilo has worked out well for you?  i like the flexibility of the firmware updates but looks like those updates have been slow to develop...

 

I read this whole thread as well as other Hilo threads on Gearslutz and the web.

 

thanks.

post #269 of 621
I really like 1/4" balanced for monitors and the Hilo has that. It'd be my pick if I were buying blind.
post #270 of 621
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Originally Posted by aphinity View Post
[...]

i like the flexibility of the firmware updates but looks like those updates have been slow to develop...

[...]

 

Lynx released 2 firmware updates in 2012. If they keep on like that, is it slow?

 

Maybe compared to some software company release cycles like Mozilla Firefox, but not necessarily compared to computer hardware and definately not compared to audio hardware. It may very well actually be rather often compared to the latter. If I remember correctly, OPPO is considered to be among the fast, but I don't think they release (much) more often than twice a year, maybe even having longer release intervals.

 

I don't know to much about the normal firmware release politics for the rest of the pro audio world though.

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