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Tried and true technology (the Cirrus converter chips were introduced ten years ago this coming Sunday), well implemented.  Gotta love it.
It could be ACME for all I care. The DAC is very good and seems to be sounding better with more time. The inner detail of the sound is becoming more focused. The area I enjoy most when listening. biggrin.gif

The comparisons we wanted to do at the meet has been reconsidered. Darryl is making his DACs available for Chase and I over the next couple months. My first comparison will be with the NAD M51. In the coming weeks I'll get to visit with the PWD II, A gd Master 7, Buffalo III and the Anedio D2.
post #227 of 621
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The comparisons we wanted to do at the meet has been reconsidered. Darryl is making his DACs available for Chase and I over the next couple months. My first comparison will be with the NAD M51. In the coming weeks I'll get to visit with the PWD II, A gd Master 7, Buffalo III and the Anedio D2.

 

Looking forward to it, HC!! atsmile.gif

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Looking forward to it, HC!! atsmile.gif
I am honored to be able to hear such awesome DACs in my rig. This community just continues to astound me with it's willingness to share and the trustworthiness shown. That's why I spend so much time here vs other sites. Head Fi is 5*.
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I am honored to be able to hear such awesome DACs in my rig. This community just continues to astound me with it's willingness to share and the trustworthiness shown. That's why I spend so much time here vs other sites. Head Fi is 5*.

 

Indubitably! ;)

post #230 of 621
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It could be ACME for all I care. The DAC is very good and seems to be sounding better with more time. The inner detail of the sound is becoming more focused. The area I enjoy most when listening. biggrin.gif

 

That's been my feeling all along. Why is everybody so concerned over which chip is being used? If it sounds good, it is good, bottom line. Most people would agree that it's not the chip that dictates the sound of a DAC, but the way it's used, and the critical analog output stage.

 

my 2 cents.
 

post #231 of 621

Is it just me or does the Hilo not sound as good now that we have seen the insides?  The bass is smeared, mids are recessed.  Clarity is out the window.  Highs sound harsh and artificial.  I should have never looked at the pictures.  I used to like the DAC so much.

post #232 of 621

9 DSD albums now.  Couldn't be happier with the Hilo.  I love this window;

 

 

post #233 of 621
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That's been my feeling all along. Why is everybody so concerned over which chip is being used? If it sounds good, it is good, bottom line. Most people would agree that it's not the chip that dictates the sound of a DAC, but the way it's used, and the critical analog output stage.

 

my 2 cents.
 

I am the one who brought up having a problem with Hilo not posting the chipset.

 

It's not like I said "Oh, they won't post the chip, well, I ain't buying it then"

 

I was just simply curious as to what it's running.

 

Not sure why you're making a big deal about it, yes, implementation is everything,

but why the hell does it have to be some big secret.

post #234 of 621

I think they should make the boards swappable and offer upgraded boards for people who care. 

 

I also agree that they should just post the chipset. Doesn't matter to me. I've heard a ton if 80s NOS DACs that destroy some of today's offerings.

 

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I am the one who brought up having a problem with Hilo not posting the chipset.

 

It's not like I said "Oh, they won't post the chip, well, I ain't buying it then"

 

I was just simply curious as to what it's running.

 

Not sure why you're making a big deal about it, yes, implementation is everything,

but why the hell does it have to be some big secret.

post #235 of 621
According to a recent comparison, the Matrix X-Sabre and Mytek Stereo 192 DACs sound completely different (in favor of the Matrix) despite using the same ESS9018 in the same arrangement of 8 DAC chips, 4 per channel. It really is about implementation.
post #236 of 621
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According to a recent comparison, the Matrix X-Sabre and Mytek Stereo 192 DACs sound completely different (in favor of the Matrix) despite using the same ESS9018 in the same arrangement of 8 DAC chips, 4 per channel. It really is about implementation.

 

Where?

 

These ar the two DSD DACs i'm interested in.  All I can go on now is that I like the looks of the X-Saber better.  So some comparisons between the two would be great.


Edited by preproman - 3/22/13 at 7:06pm
post #237 of 621

Looks like some differences of opinions:

 

http://www.hifi-advice.com/mytek-192DSD-review.html

post #238 of 621
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Originally Posted by santacore View Post

That's been my feeling all along. Why is everybody so concerned over which chip is being used? If it sounds good, it is good, bottom line. Most people would agree that it's not the chip that dictates the sound of a DAC, but the way it's used, and the critical analog output stage.

my 2 cents.

 
Yes sir I agree and Lynx reworked their analog outputs extensively from the Aroura.

Their quote:
Hilo completely redefines and evolves the category of the two channel converter. Of utmost importance is the audio signal quality. The completely new design of the analog stages and converter topology for Hilo break new ground in terms of lowering distortion and noise while maintaining transparency for A/D and D/A conversion

I like the idea of them putting their design efforts into just that area of development. As for swapping boards, that would be interesting. I'd also of liked an I2S input. I'd have ordered the non USB and gotten a quality USB converter.

What trims and volumes have you guys settled on? I play the input in solo mode now.
Edited by Happy Camper - 3/23/13 at 12:50pm
post #239 of 621

Output Mix Routing page not available (or, at least different) in DSD Mode:

 

 

 

Line In and Out trims settings still available:

 

 

 

I have had these trim settings anywhere from +0dBV right to +20dBu to my Yulong Headphone amp without issue.  The Input volume on the other hand (when not in DSD mode) I never have above 0dB.

post #240 of 621
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How do you get your Hilo into "DSD" mode? I don't think I've ever seen that symbol and I have tried to play as DSD file.
 

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