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post #1081 of 1148

Thanks for that, looks good. Do you think the SM3's need an amp?

post #1082 of 1148
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Originally Posted by Benistgud View Post

Thanks for that, looks good. Do you think the SM3's need an amp?

It's not 100% absolute and opinions on amping will vary wildly here. I believe adding something small into the mix with SM3 helped tighten up the low end and offer a slightly enhanced presentation, helped extract the detail, mostly because the amp is ever so slightly cool (bright) it helps even out warmer tonality of SM3. And certainly you're going to experience changes tinkering with the different outputs and features. So I'll say yes it does make a difference, how much you benefit from this is sometimes personal preference. I always say it's best to try and find out for yourself.
post #1083 of 1148

Someone here suggested these tips:

 

http://www.meelec.com/MEElectronics_Original_Triple_flange_Eartips_p/tipset3-tf35l-mrg-bk.htm

 

I've been using them for a week now, and I like them better than the stock silicon.. very nice.

 

Thanks!

post #1084 of 1148
I'd get some star tips.
post #1085 of 1148

Usually, I use the small supplied gray double-flange tips.

Today, however I listened to my FILTERLESS SM3v2 with the supplied Comply foam tips.  This is the first time I've done so since removing the in-line filters (see my comments on that earlier in this thread -- bottom line: filter removal is a HUGE improvement).

Anyway, IMO, the Comply are big step back in most aspects of SQ. No wonder I haven't used them in a while!

QUESTIONS: (sorry I'm too lazy to search this thread or elsewhere for answers -- that said, what we may need is some consolidated/topical thoughts on this issue!): What is the general consensus on best-sounding tip? Although the stock-supplied tips are pretty much all you need, is there any exceptional aftermarket tip that SM3 fans are crazy about?

 

Thx!

post #1086 of 1148

So my SM3's broke and were out of warranty. Total came out to over a hundred dollars after shipping. Am definitely going to be looking at Westone or another company when looking for my next earphone purchase. Sucks, cause I've heard great things about SM64's.

post #1087 of 1148
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Originally Posted by Mando323 View Post

So my SM3's broke and were out of warranty. Total came out to over a hundred dollars after shipping. Am definitely going to be looking at Westone or another company when looking for my next earphone purchase. Sucks, cause I've heard great things about SM64's.

Can you better define "broke"? Mine "broke" too -- shell came apart where the two halves are "glued" together. I attended to it immediately by re-gluing the halves back together. So, nothing really broke ... just poor "glue job" with stock unit!

post #1088 of 1148
Yeah I sent 2 pairs back after faulty repairs. I am considering purchasing the SM2, but I will likely make some modifications of my own to secure them this time. Not worth investing over $200 in their products, IMO, especially when you might get really unlucky like me and wind up spending more than MSRP on repairs and shipping. Pretty sad, and I mean that seriously: the sound is pretty unbeatable at the price range in terms of timbre and tonal balance, and it would be really awesome if they would make a more durable, reliable product.
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Originally Posted by alphaman View Post

Can you better define "broke"? Mine "broke" too -- shell came apart where the two halves are "glued" together. I attended to it immediately by re-gluing the halves back together. So, nothing really broke ... just poor "glue job" with stock unit!

Edited by Gilly87 - 6/4/13 at 11:36pm
post #1089 of 1148
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Originally Posted by Gilly87 View Post

Yeah I sent 2 pairs back after faulty repairs. I am considering purchasing the SM2, but I will likely make some modifications of my own to secure them this time. Not worth investing over $200 in their products, IMO, especially when you might get really unlucky like me and wind up spending more than MSRP on repairs and shipping. Pretty sad, and I mean that seriously: the sound is pretty unbeatable at the price range in terms of timbre and tonal balance, and it would be really awesome if they would make a more durable, reliable product.

Not sure I consider this model -- my only experience with ES -- to be less reliable/durable than usual. My Senn IE-8 had BOTH nozzles "break" only a few mos. into use. Not really broken -- the bayonet-style I-E8 nozzle have a weird soda-bottle-cap-type low-torque break seal. They will still lock-fit, but they twist out of position easily, often leaving the tip+nozzle in ear canal!  I have the same tip-in-canal issue with SM3, etc.

Welcome to the world of high-end IEMs, folks. These things should come with tweezers in their acces. kit -- to extract those stuck-in-canal tips ;)

 

Speaking of tips, which size Westone Star did you mean? And HOW much better are the Star tips compared to SM3 stocks?

post #1090 of 1148
Well I haven't used the Star tips with SM3s, but they are incredible on my UM3X; I use the mediums. They don't smush up in my ear like the SM3 biflanges; they penetrate just far enough to ensure consistent seal, and for me personally just seem to mold well to my ear.
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Originally Posted by alphaman View Post

Not sure I consider this model -- my only experience with ES -- to be less reliable/durable than usual. My Senn IE-8 had BOTH nozzles "break" only a few mos. into use. Not really broken -- the bayonet-style I-E8 nozzle have a weird soda-bottle-cap-type low-torque break seal. They will still lock-fit, but they twist out of position easily, often leaving the tip+nozzle in ear canal!  I have the same tip-in-canal issue with SM3, etc.
Welcome to the world of high-end IEMs, folks. These things should come with tweezers in their acces. kit -- to extract those stuck-in-canal tips wink.gif

Speaking of tips, which size Westone Star did you mean? And HOW much better are the Star tips compared to SM3 stocks?
post #1091 of 1148
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Originally Posted by Gilly87 View Post

Well I haven't used the Star tips with SM3s, but they are incredible on my UM3X; I use the mediums. They don't smush up in my ear like the SM3 biflanges; they penetrate just far enough to ensure consistent seal, and for me personally just seem to mold well to my ear.

For me, the small (stock) Comply have best seal and are most comfortable. And the small Comply least deform the natural geometry of my ear canal. But still, for most sonic attributes that are important to me, the Comply are WAY eclipsed by the stock silicone bi-flange. Reasons for this may be shorter/wider inner diameter of these tips. Another reason may very well be that (due to their shape/larger size) the silicone bi-flanges "distort" the geometry of my ear canal in a GOOD (but "unnatural") way -- maybe I have genetically inferior ear canals and so I need a modern tech. soln.!!

I also use foam Comply with my IE-8--but with this IEM, the Comply are superior to stock Senn. bi-flanges or other stock tips.

 

Haven't tried the SM3 with custom molds, tho', so maybe that's the best option of all ???? !! But my remark about genetically-poor (= innate) ear design throws a monkey into the wrench of the customs-or-die philosophy.

post #1092 of 1148

How do these compare to the Westone 3?


Edited by Illbetheone - 6/7/13 at 5:56am
post #1093 of 1148
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Originally Posted by Illbetheone View Post

How do these compare to the Westone 3?

I would be interested in this comparison too. I will be looking at either the SM64 or SM3V2 as my next IEM...

post #1094 of 1148
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Originally Posted by alphaman View Post

Can you better define "broke"? Mine "broke" too -- shell came apart where the two halves are "glued" together. I attended to it immediately by re-gluing the halves back together. So, nothing really broke ... just poor "glue job" with stock unit!

Sorry, just reading this. Yeah, the glue came apart and I contacted ES about this. Tey told me to send it in, but I couldn;t really go without these things and continued listening. I guess the wires inside were at risk and the inside messed up. Completely my fault. I don't mind paying for the repairs, since I should have sent them in from the get go.

 

But the fact that the shipping was 40 euros(not sure how much that is in US dollars, but I know it's a lot, and that I once had to send in my SM3's for a shaky bass problem 3 times before they finally fixed it is what is making me look towards Westone or Shure for my next purchase. I will think long and hard, and the purchase likely wont be till Winter, but this has certainly left another bad taste in my mouth with Earsonics.

post #1095 of 1148
Any comparison to the westone 3?
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