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post #151 of 1227
Yeah, I think you are right. And I LOVE the sound of the HPM-100 smily_headphones1.gif
post #152 of 1227
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Originally Posted by BmWr75 View Post





Rob, I wouldn't try it.  HPM-100s are in a different class of Pioneer speakers than the CS line.


even if it is, stuffing is good for any acoustic suspension cabinets. it prevent resonances and keeps the soundwaves ''out'' and not in. great for ported cabs as well. i stuffed my technics sb-t200 cabs and the clarity just shot through the roof in the treble and midrange areas. the bass tighten greatly(these speakers are known to have hard hitting heavy bass for floor towers) as well.

cab resonance can affect the sound quality big time especially if the speakers use real wood and not simulated veneer stuff. you can even make cheap speakers sound amazing cause in cheap speakers they always never apply acoustic treatment in the cabinets.
post #153 of 1227

Rex,

 

Did either of the speakers you referenced already have any acoustic damping material in them?  I've see some vintage speakers that were just any empty cabinet with drivers installed.  Am sure some stuffing would have made them sound better.  I use Acoust-Stuf from Parts Express when refurbing speakers.

 

My comment to Skylab was because my opinion is the HPM-100s already have adequate stuffing from the factory.

 

Scott

post #154 of 1227
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Originally Posted by BmWr75 View Post

Rex,

 

Did either of the speakers you referenced already have any acoustic damping material in them?  I've see some vintage speakers that were just any empty cabinet with drivers installed.  Am sure some stuffing would have made them sound better.  I use Acoust-Stuf from Parts Express when refurbing speakers.

 

My comment to Skylab was because my opinion is the HPM-100s already have adequate stuffing from the factory.

 

Scott


i know. just sometimes when buying speakers from people just make sure they are stuffed is all i'm saying. i usually just rip speakers apart and just restuff them as usual. and no my technics had horrible acoustic damping. just had some foam stuff at the bottom of the cabs so i stuffed them more and stuffed the top part as well. i had these speakers for a year as a well before i decided to stuff them(since most of time i used them for the powerful woofers they had.) the pioneer cs-77a had some thick wool material but seemed very worn out so i decided to stuff them with polyfill and they sounded much better after the restuff. the cabs were more calm as well while i noticed more control in the woofer but required more power to be pushed. the pioneer cs line has wonderful speakers(especially the woofers) but the cabs they were put in are too small so putting more stuffing will help greatly on their part. i usually just suggest re-stuffing but it's optional. it also don't hurt to add more either if you can. best test is feel the cabs playing music loud(especially bass heavy tracks that play below 40hz)
post #155 of 1227

New to forum and not sure my speakers i nabbed are considered vintage but they are no longer produced hehe I was on Dell speakers that came with my PC for the whole time and after hearing real speakers at hifi shops and friend's places i upgraded and boy am i stoked wee~

 

Polk Audio M3 Monitor Series 2 

 

Got em cheap at some house moving sale and they were dusty and look beat up but nothing some TLC couldn't fix ^^

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post #156 of 1227

I've never been a fan of vintage speakers but I couldn't resist picking up a set of AR-4x's from the local thrift store the other day. They need some minor work but sound very good. They remind me a little of my HD-650's in speaker form, warm laid back and a little rolled off in the highs which makes them easy to listen too. Wife's probably going to kill me.

 

Pictures to follow.

 

post #157 of 1227
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Originally Posted by francisdemarte View Post

I've never been a fan of vintage speakers but I couldn't resist picking up a set of AR-4x's from the local thrift store the other day. They need some minor work but sound very good. They remind me a little of my HD-650's in speaker form, warm laid back and a little rolled off in the highs which makes them easy to listen too. Wife's probably going to kill me.

 

Pictures to follow.


I look forward to the pictures! I started off as well as not liking the looks of vintage stuff, but i started off with buying (with what i thought was a good deal) B&W DM610i's for $60 on my craigslist. After that i bought a Rotel 1062 intergrated amp and soon followed my vintage path of my Kenwood KR-9000 receiver. Personally i love the looks of vintage, but you really have to look out after those audio dealers. Always remember, vintage in only what you are willing to pay!

 

post #158 of 1227

Wow I just found this thread.  I picked up a Pair of large Advents for $25 that  just need refoaming.   I'm going to start working on them in a few weeks refoaming the woofer and maybe updating the crossovers and refinishing the cabinets.  I don't usually go for vintage speakers but I couldn't pass up the Advents for $25.

 

I'm going to have to read through this entire thread now.bigsmile_face.gif

post #159 of 1227
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Wow I just found this thread.  I picked up a Pair of large Advents for $25 that  just need refoaming.   I'm going to start working on them in a few weeks refoaming the woofer and maybe updating the crossovers and refinishing the cabinets.  I don't usually go for vintage speakers but I couldn't pass up the Advents for $25.

 

I'm going to have to read through this entire thread now.bigsmile_face.gif


That's what im talking about!

 

post #160 of 1227

Be careful with cab stuffing...you can over-dampen the cabs which then screws with the bass output/mid bass region. It's best to start off with a small amount , listen , then add little bits at a time until it sounds right. You will know when too much has been added it's fairly obvious. Acoustic fill mimics a larger cab than what the drivers are actually in. It's kind of hard to explain.

 

Peete.

post #161 of 1227

I looked, plenty of stuff in the HPM-100 as it is.  So I am leaving them alone.

post #162 of 1227

Haha, even this thread is growing!

post #163 of 1227
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Haha, even this thread is growing!


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post #164 of 1227

Be sure to keep an eye out for some obscure brands.  Many are underrated and can be found for pretty cheap.  Haha, I wonder if I should list some. wink.gif

post #165 of 1227
You should!

I had a pair of Realistic speakers back in the day that were remarkably good. I don't recall the model number - need to look it up...
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