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post #1201 of 1258

I love the look of the Wharfedales!

post #1202 of 1258
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Originally Posted by wotts View Post
 

I love the look of the Wharfedales!

 

They're nice sounding too.  Not the last word in detail, but very smooth and laid back, without feeling like there's a big veil over the music.  Definitely furniture like in look.

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Well, I said something big was coming, and by that I meant physically large. And heavy.

It was a package deal. I really just wanted the tuner, but hey, it's all good.

MR-78 Tuner!

MC-2125

C-32

Klipsch Cornwall

 

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Great setups guys, and what a way to bring this thread back to life. Of course I love the Mac and cornwalls Phoenix, being a Mac and cornwall owner myself. I'm looking forward to your impressions of both.


@ Captouch: Man, I'm really digging the ess speakers. A very underrated speaker with tech that was way ahead of its time. I nearly scored a pair of those ones. Congrats to both of you.
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Originally Posted by moodyrn View Post

Great setups guys, and what a way to bring this thread back to life. Of course I love the Mac and cornwalls Phoenix, being a Mac and cornwall owner myself. I'm looking forward to your impressions of both.


@ Captouch: Man, I'm really digging the ess speakers. A very underrated speaker with tech that was way ahead of its time. I nearly scored a pair of those ones. Congrats to both of you.

 

Thanks Moodyrn.  The ESS acquisition was purely incidental.  I bought the Wharfedales via CL from this retired gentleman who is moving overseas soon, and he also happened to be selling two pairs of ESS AMT-1b's, one pair which needed refoaming.  But I was only after the Wharfedales at the time.  He played some music on the good pair of ESS's while I was there, but it wasn't music I was familiar with and it was more than I wanted to spend in any case.

 

We talked awhile, he was a very nice guy.  He asked me if I wanted to take any records from his LP collection, which I almost didn't take the time to browse through, but ended up taking a bunch of them, all pristine and some really good ones.  Then on the way out, he offered me the vintage receiver he was demoing the speakers on.  :basshead:  I asked him if he was sure, and he said yes.

 

A week or so later, he emailed me and asked me if I wanted the pair of ESS's that needed refoaming since he wasn't getting any bites of CL.  So that's how I got these.  I wasn't sure if I was going to keep them at first, because the Wharfedales completed my last system and I didn't need an extra pair of speakers.  But after refoaming, replacing the crossover caps, and listening to them for the last week or so, I really don't see how I can let them go.  This Heil tweeter is awesome.

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in case any of the vintage speaker guys are still trolling this thread, i scored some mint sansui sf-x7 for free.  just curious if anyone knows anything about these guys or if they are considered "valuable" vintage gear, it's hard to find much on the net about them.  i've only listened to them briefly, they seem to sound pretty nice with a heavy emphasis on the midrange, i was thinking about building a near-field setup with them...was trying to score a local sansui 9090 but the deal fell through, i got some advice that it's a great amp and i thought it would be fun to match the speakers 

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Those are definitely not "valuable" speakers, no. But if you like the sound of them, then let the music play!
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in case any of the vintage speaker guys are still trolling this thread, i scored some mint sansui sf-x7 for free.  just curious if anyone knows anything about these guys or if they are considered "valuable" vintage gear, it's hard to find much on the net about them.  i've only listened to them briefly, they seem to sound pretty nice with a heavy emphasis on the midrange, i was thinking about building a near-field setup with them...was trying to score a local sansui 9090 but the deal fell through, i got some advice that it's a great amp and i thought it would be fun to match the speakers 

Some research is saying that those might be the driver set from a SP-5000x with a POS crossover, meaning they have the potential to sound decent, but it is squandered without a new set of crossovers. You got a good deal at "free," but I wouldn't pay the $150 they go for online. I would save that for a better pair, maybe like my favorite sansui's, the sp-5500x. (I have two pairs of them, the only sansui's I have kept because they are so damn good for their price point, and easy to find parts for if you fry them)

The 9090 db is, however, a fantastic amp. When restored, it's every ounce as good as a SX-1980. If you like the sound of that, maybe consider an early sony ES series - STR 6060, 6065, 6120, etc. They're not quite monsters, but they'll do about 70 true WPC and never ever clip, which is more than plenty for most uses. And they sound just as good in every sense except power as the 9090db. Oh, and they're cheap too. Like $150 for a decent one, $200 for a great one.

Hope that helps, cheers.


Edited by PhoenixG - 2/7/14 at 6:43am
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Originally Posted by PhoenixG View Post

Some research is saying that those might be the driver set from a SP-5000x with a POS crossover, meaning they have the potential to sound decent, but it is squandered without a new set of crossovers. You got a good deal at "free," but I wouldn't pay the $150 they go for online. I would save that for a better pair, maybe like my favorite sansui's, the sp-5500x. (I have two pairs of them, the only sansui's I have kept because they are so damn good for their price point, and easy to find parts for if you fry them)
The 9090 db is, however, a fantastic amp. When restored, it's every ounce as good as a SX-1980. If you like the sound of that, maybe consider an early sony ES series - STR 6060, 6065, 6120, etc. They're not quite monsters, but they'll do about 70 true WPC and never ever clip, which is more than plenty for most uses. And they sound just as good in every sense except power as the 9090db. Oh, and they're cheap too. Like $150 for a decent one, $200 for a great one.
Hope that helps, cheers.

Thanks for the info! If it's just a x-over maybe I'll tear them down and build some new ones, a new project never hurts especially when the donor parts were free!
post #1210 of 1258

Pair of these on the way. It has taken an amazing amount of willpower to not spill the beans on these until the deal was final.

post #1211 of 1258
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Originally Posted by PhoenixG View Post

Pair of these on the way. It has taken an amazing amount of willpower to not spill the beans on these until the deal was final.

I'll admit I've never heard those but I do want to say how amazingly beautiful they are!
post #1212 of 1258

I'm always willing to try something, but I hope that these xr-250's will be here to stay permanently. I think that they will...

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Originally Posted by captouch View Post
 

 

Thanks Moodyrn.  The ESS acquisition was purely incidental.  I bought the Wharfedales via CL from this retired gentleman who is moving overseas soon, and he also happened to be selling two pairs of ESS AMT-1b's, one pair which needed refoaming.  But I was only after the Wharfedales at the time.  He played some music on the good pair of ESS's while I was there, but it wasn't music I was familiar with and it was more than I wanted to spend in any case.

 

We talked awhile, he was a very nice guy.  He asked me if I wanted to take any records from his LP collection, which I almost didn't take the time to browse through, but ended up taking a bunch of them, all pristine and some really good ones.  Then on the way out, he offered me the vintage receiver he was demoing the speakers on.  :basshead:  I asked him if he was sure, and he said yes.

 

A week or so later, he emailed me and asked me if I wanted the pair of ESS's that needed refoaming since he wasn't getting any bites of CL.  So that's how I got these.  I wasn't sure if I was going to keep them at first, because the Wharfedales completed my last system and I didn't need an extra pair of speakers.  But after refoaming, replacing the crossover caps, and listening to them for the last week or so, I really don't see how I can let them go.  This Heil tweeter is awesome.

An interesting anectote regarding the ESS speakers. It happened at the Salone Internazionale della Musica ( SIM ), the famous show held every year in Milan, Italy.

I no longer remember whether it was 1979 or 1986, but they were demonstrating the big Transar speaker system, with Heil drivers full range, not just tweeter as in AMT series. These are very rare to be seen, here the pic from the http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue65/ces2012.htm - the big dipole to the right :

 

 

The inventor, Mr. Oscar Heil, was present at the show and I found him a very good spirited , and above all, highly enthusiastic gentleman. He explained, in greater detail that I could stomach at the show, the theory behind the midrange/bass Heil Driver and the associated amplifier; it is a VERY dedicated amp and you can not use anything else to drive these speakers. All you need is a decent preamp - from there on, It is Heil all the way.

 

Demonstration went well, while I was there (morning/noon). These truly are amazing sounding speakers. However,  in the afternoon or the next day, a friend witnessed Transar speakers ( midrange ) catching fire :eek: during a loud crescendo of symphonic music !!!

 

I have heard about  reliability problems with the Transar rather frequently after this public display; I sincerely do hope ESS was able to root out the source of this unrealiability, as speakers, when they do work, trully are something special.


Edited by analogsurviver - 2/28/14 at 11:04pm
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Those look very cool, Phoenix! Will look forward to more pics once they are in your place. Congrats !
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Congrats Phoenix. Those are beautiful speakers.
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