EDIT: Sorry apparently forgot to quote. Was in response to this:
"Well, no recording actually sounds like the er4s portrays it. I was at the hi-fi expo in my country this year, which was just next to my home and they gave me to listen to some $100-200k systems with my recordings and the er4s couldn't be further away. I know what realistic is and what analytical iems do - the b2 pushes even more detail than the er4s ans is way more agressive in the treble region and that doesn't make it more accurate. Analytical iems don't acccurately produce what is on the recording - are you serious? I said it already - have you ever been to a live concert - nothing sounds that cold. Even my brother's band sounds analytical and cold with the er4s - they sound nothing like that and my brother's voice sounds nothing like that ( I should know he's my twin brother and has the exact same voice as me, which is prety bassy)"
Every single argument you make falls apart when you consider two things:
1. The definition of "analytical."
2. The quality of the recording and mastering.
Analytical does not mean "cold with little bass and aggressive treble." Analytical headphones only fit that description when the recording does. The definition of analytical is actually a logical conclusion of "what is true." The B2 is no more analytical than the ER4 because it has more aggressive treble and pushes more detail (which it doesn't, unless you're not amping the ER4 properly).
The price of the audio chain means nothing if both the recording and entire audio chain are not accurate.
Live concerts are not the same as a recording. Irrelevant argument.
If recordings of your brother's band sound cold and analytical with the ER4, then that's how they were mastered. If you use inaccurate equipment in the master, the master will be inaccurate.
The GR07 is much farther from accurate than the ER4 is. The GR07 has a much better soundstage presentation, but tonally it's much less accurate than the ER4.
I don't see why we should be arguing in the gr07's thread anymore. I love the er4s - it's my most favorite BA iem and iem in my collection in general, so I'm not trying to make the gr07 sound better (literally) or anything. They are just so far apart to even consider comparing them. Analytical is usually a highly detailed signature due to thin note presentaion and a boosted treble - analytical does not mean true to life or natural sounding. The quiality of the recordings and the mastering has nothing to do with anything - if anything the er4s makes the music sound a lot worse due to it's analytical and picky nature. And yeah, the B2 smacks you in the face with the details while the er4s presents them more gently but still can be harsh - the RE0 is the best in presenting treble detail in my opinion. Also. I'm not comparing live concerts to studio albums - I'm comparing live concerts to live concert recordings.
Edited by kova4a - 12/6/12 at 2:28pm