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post #5266 of 6330
Maybe this is a problem of syntax. Would saying they are a bit veiled be more accurate then describing what u hear as muddy? Muddy gives me the impression of a sloppy presentation where as veiled could only be one part of the frequency is less prominent but still composed.
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Edited by UnityIsPower - 5/27/13 at 11:06am
post #5267 of 6330
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Originally Posted by TunneLVisioN42 View Post

+1 to a slightly muddier sound, separation and detail takes a small hit to me the bass on the MKII is really good, that is just my opinion and taste though.

 

+2, I've heard both the BE and the MK2. MK2 has plenty of bass unless you're a basshead.

post #5268 of 6330

Has anyone else had an issue with some sort of cable anomaly that makes it difficult to slide the adjuster up and down? On one of the two after the split, there is a tinge of dark discoloration and some sort of ... something that makes it very tight when trying to adjust the slider. 

 

Thoughts?

 

PS. It doesn't affect the performance of these in the least.

post #5269 of 6330
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Originally Posted by UnityIsPower View Post


I don't find the BE to muddy the sound either, this is news to me also. I have both, like both.


This is news to me, too. I already had the BE, and just received the vanilla version from Amazon. I can't imagine anyone who listens to hip hop, being able to survive on the MKII. Sure, they're fine for rock, because I don't expect (or even want) much bass from rock. But, when listening to hip hop...a genre where the bass is supposed to be strong and have some rumble on some tracks, the MKIIs just sound weak and empty. Also, there's a tad bit of hiss (like what some users were mentioning in the BE thread).

 

Needless to say, the MKIIs are probably going back, considering the BEs sound the same, just more powerful and w/o the hiss.

post #5270 of 6330
Are you even a hip-hop head to make that kind of statement about bass and hip-hop?

I use mine daily strictly for hip-hop and the bass is definitely plenty
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Originally Posted by Longtime Lurker View Post


This is news to me, too. I already had the BE, and just received the vanilla version from Amazon. I can't imagine anyone who listens to hip hop, being able to survive on the MKII. Sure, they're fine for rock, because I don't expect (or even want) much bass from rock. But, when listening to hip hop...a genre where the bass is supposed to be strong and have some rumble on some tracks, the MKIIs just sound weak and empty. Also, there's a tad bit of hiss (like what some users were mentioning in the BE thread).

Needless to say, the MKIIs are probably going back, considering the BEs sound the same, just more powerful and w/o the hiss.
post #5271 of 6330
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Originally Posted by Longtime Lurker View Post


This is news to me, too. I already had the BE, and just received the vanilla version from Amazon. I can't imagine anyone who listens to hip hop, being able to survive on the MKII. Sure, they're fine for rock, because I don't expect (or even want) much bass from rock. But, when listening to hip hop...a genre where the bass is supposed to be strong and have some rumble on some tracks, the MKIIs just sound weak and empty. Also, there's a tad bit of hiss (like what some users were mentioning in the BE thread).

 

Needless to say, the MKIIs are probably going back, considering the BEs sound the same, just more powerful and w/o the hiss.

 

Wow. Either you have no seal or you're an extreme basshead. The MK2's rumble more than any headphone I have.

post #5272 of 6330
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Originally Posted by Longtime Lurker View Post


This is news to me, too. I already had the BE, and just received the vanilla version from Amazon. I can't imagine anyone who listens to hip hop, being able to survive on the MKII. Sure, they're fine for rock, because I don't expect (or even want) much bass from rock. But, when listening to hip hop...a genre where the bass is supposed to be strong and have some rumble on some tracks, the MKIIs just sound weak and empty. Also, there's a tad bit of hiss (like what some users were mentioning in the BE thread).

 

Needless to say, the MKIIs are probably going back, considering the BEs sound the same, just more powerful and w/o the hiss.

 

 

The hiss is referred to as sibilance and pretty much means vocals which are heavy in F and S aswell as alot of other things will give off a hiss sound, If you burn the bio cellulose drivers in for more than 100 hours it goes away, I only think burn in make's a difference in a few dynamic driver designs and this is one of them the manufacturer even says give them at least 100 hours before opinions are made.

The bass between the two is also not that far off, extension is almost exactly the same, Like others are saying mess around with the tips, it took me a few days to find the best tips and fit.

 

post #5273 of 6330
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post

^ This obviously is open to personal opinion. I don't find the bass of the BE's to muddle up anything.

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Originally Posted by UnityIsPower View Post

I don't find the BE to muddy the sound either, this is news to me also. I have both, like both.

Muddy is probably not the perfect verb but really, something is perfectly clear until you hear something clearer and you go "ohhhhhh!"
Not that it implies a lot more detail or anything. It could just be an overall sound characteristic. Some might find that "muddiness" to be a lush thickness and rather enjoy it.

The MKII, for some, likely lacks the mid-bass quantity they were expecting or hoping for and no amount of sub-bass will "fix" that.
post #5274 of 6330

I'm having trouble getting the armature (?) adjusted correctly for fit on my left side. Is there any trick or is it just trial and error?

 

thanks...

post #5275 of 6330

You mean the nozzle with the square body of the phones?  Did you already try a diferent size tip in the left ear?
 

post #5276 of 6330

I mean rotating the nozzle piece to better fit and seal the ear. I have not tried a smaller tip yet. 

post #5277 of 6330

With regard to rotating the nozzle, I usually do it based on try'n'error. If you secure and move the black body of the phones with two fingertips and smoothly rotating once the nozzle is already positioned in the ear you can also try to optimize fit. 
 


Edited by Renato-CWB - 5/31/13 at 4:26am
post #5278 of 6330

So are you saying that the nozzle can be adjust even after you placed it in ear? If so, I haven't tried that yet and will give it a go. 

post #5279 of 6330
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

So are you saying that the nozzle can be adjust even after you placed it in ear? If so, I haven't tried that yet and will give it a go. 

That's how I put mine on. I don't care about the position of the nozzles before I put them on, then adjust the nozzles after by their body pushing them downwards, then slightly upwards until they're on the center for optimum seal. So technically I am using my ears to hold on to the nozzles while using the body/housing to adjust the nozzles, lol. Dunno if it makes sense but that's how I achieve perfect fit. Sorry if my english is kinda confusing, not my native toungue. tongue.gif
post #5280 of 6330

Perfect! No problem, your English is just fine and I understand your directions. I'll give it a try today after work. 

 

thanks...

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