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Speaker choices, reccomendations please.

post #1 of 10
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Greetings!

 

I have a room that I need to upgrade.  Just tonight, while auditioning the re-release of the Daft Punk Discovery on Vinyl, I watched the foam surround slowly fizzle away into a pile of red dust.  The speakers in question are Cerwin Vega AT-8's. 

 

Now I can restore the woofers for about $30, but these speakers I bought new 20 years ago, and while I think they sound great, I'm thinking its time to upgrade.  These speakers didn't get a lot of play, because that specific room isn't used all that much, but I want to change that. 

 

Since I have decided to get back in the 2-channel music world, I have been restoring and bringing up to date all the rest of my equipment.  Here are some thoughts:

 

I have about 400w per channel (not peak) to play around with.  I'm looking for another matching amp, and afterwords I will have about 700w per channel, mono-block style.   I don't have a huge amount of space.  My critical lissening is done on headphones, so the new speaker doesn't have to be super amazing.  I want two speakers.  I really don't want to get into adding a sub.  Height is not an issue, but width may be.

 

I haven't auditioned speakers in a long while, but here is what I have heard and liked:

Martin Logan's electrostatic: I like the sound, but I don't like the 40-degree phase area deal, and I think they sound a little too bright, they are also too expensive and too big for this room. Why buy em if you're not going to use them!

 

Mirage Nanosat?: I really like the sound of these, but that would mean I have to get a sub, and I really don't want to get into that.

 

Paradigm: Again, I like the sound, but they didn't do anything special for me.

 

On budgeting for these speakers, since they won't see huge amounts of play time, I think the max I'm looking to spend is $800? And if just maybe, something is super fantastic, I'd do $1000.  Of course, sounding good is of most concern, but just because something costs $1000 doesn't mean it sounds any better than my $300 CV's.

 

So, spend the $30 and restore my AT-8's, or spend more?  A side note is that I mostly lissen to headphones, but I am wanting to slowly build a 2-channel system.  This is only played when company is over and wants to hear something.  But I will start using it more as time goes on... I'm also happy keeping the AT-8's until they totally fall apart.

 

As always, your suggestions are most appreciated.

 

post #2 of 10
Are you considering Magnepans? I've never owned any but have read a lot about them. I believe they have a 30 day home trial.
post #3 of 10

You can try the martin logan motion 10's for 800 bucks. :)

post #4 of 10
Thread Starter 

I'll consider them now!  I had never heard of Magnepan before I searched just an hour ago, and I am very intrugued.  Somewhere back in my mind, I remember my father taking me to a fellows house who must have had a set because the older ones look just like something I saw and heard once.

 

Anyhow, the prices seem very reasonable.  I think I will give them a call tomorrow and see what's up.  The only issue I have is that the room is small, and I there is no way I can have floorstanding dipole's sitting in the middle of the floor in order to image correctly.

 

Also, I guess I'll have to get a sub.

 

Thanks for the info!

post #5 of 10
You're most welcome.
post #6 of 10
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Originally Posted by Permagrin View Post

You're most welcome.


I just wanted to say, I picked up the new "The absolute sound" and I was supprised to see they had a fantastic review of the 'Maggie 3.7's.  After reading that 6-7 page review, I am even more impressed.  I REALLY need to hear these things!

post #7 of 10
Maggies are quite special! Be sure to consider used ones - there are always quite a few listed at Audiogon.

Another brand to consider is Vandersteen. I haven't heard a pair, but they have a heck of a following and reputation. Worth looking into.

I've also listened to a few PSB models at a dealer and was impressed by them. Nice company and everyone seems to like their speakers. I gave my parents a pair of the Alpha-B1s and have been impressed with their sound at their price.

Might DIY be an option for you? There are dozens and dozens of terrific designs out there. I spent around $1,000 to build a pair of ProAc Response 2.5 clones. They ran $4,500 new and used ones go around $2,000. I'm extremely pleased with them. Not the last word in resolution, but they have a remarkable tonal balance and imaging. The crossover is seamless and the amount of (good!) bass the 6.5" drivers produce is amazing. No subwoofer necessary.

If you have access to tools, DIY is a great option. Also, a local cabinet shop can cut cabinets for a lot less than you might expect. One near me charges $2 a cut if you buy the wood/MDF there. They could probably knock out the clone cabinets for under $100. Assembly and finish required at home, but that would still be a substantial savings over buying commercial speakers.
post #8 of 10
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Much as I'd like to, I've got WAY too many DIY projects currently (Including new hardwood in the whole upstairs... but I got a p-neumatic gun this time... did the downstairs with manual gun and hammer, but that was 20 years ago).

 

I remember when the Vandersteen 3C came out; fantastic speaker.  But those are above what I would like to spend on this room, unless you have a set you would like to offer for... $600? I'd be willing to take them off your hands.

 

 

post #9 of 10
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I'm pretty dead set on trying out those 'Maggies', and after reading a bunch it seems they REALLY come to life with a sub.  Most of the things I read were talking about powered subs.

Whats the deal with powered subs?  Seems to me that if I have a perfectly good amp, but by pre-amp doesn't have a "sub-out", I'm wasting good amp power by running speaker level outs to a powered sub.  Do the powered subs have a true pass through? 

 

I've only ever had a passive sub, which I liked, but got rid of it long ago.

post #10 of 10
Try the Maggies without a sub at first. They have a lot of very clean and tight natural-sounding bass. You might find yourself happy with that. If not, you can add a sub.

Most of the good powered ones pass through the amp's power just fine. Ultimately, that depends on the sub's design, though.
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