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Originally Posted by Steve Eddy View Post


No, we don't.

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While I have you - is the new headphone amp ready?

post #152 of 172
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While I have you - is the new headphone amp ready?

 

You've got a PM.

 

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post #153 of 172

Toxic silver poison gives more tighten bass and more clear in mid while not harsh.

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I'm new to the phone scene but thought I'd like to get replacement cables for my HE-500's. Contacted Mr. Eddy at Q, looked at Silver Dragon v3, Cardas Clear (same price at the cans!- LOL), and the Toxic silver poison. If I get those from the UK, I'm trying to figure out if I should get the cables sleeved or not. I don't want the extra weight if possible, but don't want snags either. He also offers a non-shielded version but I don't know how that will affect things. Anyone have experience with this one? Most people tend to recommend silver over copper for this phone, but I'm leaning toward the Q or Poison.


Edited by scottyfree111 - 9/15/13 at 1:52pm
post #155 of 172

I was in the same boat as you.  I looked at Toxic, BTG Audio, and Q.  I didn't want to endure the ridiculous wait associated with Toxic, and almost went with BTG.  It was the summer sale at Q that sealed the deal for me.  Sadly the sale is now over, but I think you would love the Q cable for your HE500's.  Very flexible, and the french silk is just as good as having another type of cable sleeved.  No worries about snags or extra weight.

post #156 of 172

Great! Mr. Eddy seems like a pleasure to do business with.  I wonder if he'll give me the summer discount? I just don't want to keep thinking did I make the right decision...

post #157 of 172

I didn't want to wait a few months for the Silver Poison cables so I got the Q Audio French Silk for my HE-500's and couldn't be happier. They are gorgeous and easy to move around, much more so than the stock cable. I was a bit worried going from silver (stock) to copper and giving up up a bit of the midrange quality of the stock cable, but sonically they are wonderful and just let music pass through uncolored in any way. Steve is a delight to work with and quite funny too!

post #158 of 172
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Originally Posted by scottyfree111 View Post

I didn't want to wait a few months for the Silver Poison cables so I got the Q Audio French Silk for my HE-500's and couldn't be happier. They are gorgeous and easy to move around, much more so than the stock cable. I was a bit worried going from silver (stock) to copper and giving up up a bit of the midrange quality of the stock cable, but sonically they are wonderful and just let music pass through uncolored in any way. Steve is a delight to work with and quite funny too!
A few months? How about almost a year? For a Toxic cable........ You have to send in your money first too. That's crazy.
post #159 of 172
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A few months? How about almost a year? For a Toxic cable........ You have to send in your money first too. That's crazy.

 

Yea, no matter how good the rep. I've seen a few too many times where reputable sellers take money for an item with a long wait time and then.... silence. 

post #160 of 172
They are using their customer's money to build their profits.
post #161 of 172
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Originally Posted by Happy Camper View Post

They are using their customer's money to build their profits.
If ur so negative about the toxic cables..as one of the few i have to admit!!! Why for gods sake are u asking on their thread about if they use raw material??? Pls explain!!! U sound very fishy..and thats my honest opinion ofcourse..

As this sounds a bit off to me..first AGAIN mentioning about the one year waiting time..which is a total LIE!, and u know that mr. Happy camper... Some wait long..but thats because something wet wrong somewhere..any those got a refund if they wished..but noy 1 year..or u must know more then me...but i doubt that..as i check their thread daily.. As most know.. wink.gif

And now ur asking on their thread about whether they use raw material? U think people are stupid? If ur so interested in their cables why are u trying to diskredit their name with news thats wellknown.. On this thread?

And for ur info...soon his deliverytime will be 2-3weeks with the new manpower and the new equipment he hired/bought recently....so no more one man show anymore....

So guys and girls of the hifiman community..soon his long waiting times ( sometimes 6months) are over...

I wanna say Something bout other brands with their so called short deliverytimes... GOOD quality brands normally take time to manfactur and to deliver if ur short on manpower (as most of them are)..see NORSE cables ..they stopped new orders for a while so they could go through their backlog..thats because their cables are in big demand..as they make very good cables!.toxic had to do the same with their ebay sales..how many other brands u know of which had to do that because of their popularity? Only those two! As they are top of the line..

So happy camper.. Once again..if ur so negative about their deliverytimes (toxic)..why for gods sake u wanna know about how they get their material..it just dont make sense then just a way to attract some kind of negative reactions and in so trying to diskredit toxic..again..

I just dont understand this..we all have to respect others..whether toxic, norse, double helix or any other premium brand i heard/owned/exists..they do all they can to give us the best cables they can produce.. As they have a reputatie to behold.. So it makes me sad that some people tryin to diskredit brands for some kind of reason?? Protecting others? Pls!!
And about prepayment for cables..for these kind of things u always have prepayment..i always paid in front for any of my audio stuff... If i would only pay after finishing i think most of the manufacturers would go bankrupt.. Imho ofourse...
Peace to u all.
post #162 of 172
Going to and experience is two different animals. Business practices are typically that the seller invests in their materials to make it reasonably available to the customer. If it's a group buy that states when enough people are gathered, a purchase is made, that's known going in. Your funds are being used to save money. To charge for the order on the front end and then have waits longer than given is not fair to the person putting their money out, irrespective of quality. If I charged my customer for product and collected on the front end and then delayed beyond the corresponded time, I wouldn't be in business. Is it unfair to expect the same of a company charging hundreds of dollars for a few feet of wire? While there are unseen delays that come up, those are communicated and the consumer is aware of the delay. My statement of almost a year is too long. I was inquiring at a time when Toxic was MIA and read some customers nervousness. For that I was making an emotional response. I am sorry.

As for the question of making proprietary material, it's a question. You seem to be strongly offended for a simple question. If the metal was proprietary to one seller, and runs limited to order size, I could see delays based on minimum sized runs. That was my question. I asked for my HE-6 to be hardwired with their cable, I was told they don't do that work. I truly would like to try his wire. I want to do my own hardwiring to my headphones but can't. I shouldn't have to pay for terminations just to cut them off.

You've not been around here long enough to have seen a lot of our community get burned with Singlepower for one example. There have been other cable makers do similar so it's not unknown. Even a hint of silence or extended delays causes the alarms to go off. There are no consumer protections offered.

I have asked the mods to review this mess and take appropriate action to rid any unnecessary fallout from strong commentary. Mine included. You are a Toxic fan so I understand your passion. Wire Gods are strongly defended by their followers. Lesson learned.
post #163 of 172
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Originally Posted by Happy Camper View Post

Going to and experience is two different animals. Business practices are typically that the seller invests in their materials to make it reasonably available to the customer. If it's a group buy that states when enough people are gathered, a purchase is made, that's known going in. Your funds are being used to save money. To charge for the order on the front end and then have waits longer than given is not fair to the person putting their money out, irrespective of quality. If I charged my customer for product and collected on the front end and then delayed beyond the corresponded time, I wouldn't be in business. Is it unfair to expect the same of a company charging hundreds of dollars for a few feet of wire? While there are unseen delays that come up, those are communicated and the consumer is aware of the delay. My statement of almost a year is too long. I was inquiring at a time when Toxic was MIA and read some customers nervousness. For that I was making an emotional response. I am sorry.

As for the question of making proprietary material, it's a question. You seem to be strongly offended for a simple question. If the metal was proprietary to one seller, and runs limited to order size, I could see delays based on minimum sized runs. That was my question. I asked for my HE-6 to be hardwired with their cable, I was told they don't do that work. I truly would like to try his wire. I want to do my own hardwiring to my headphones but can't. I shouldn't have to pay for terminations just to cut them off.

You've not been around here long enough to have seen a lot of our community get burned with Singlepower for one example. There have been other cable makers do similar so it's not unknown. Even a hint of silence or extended delays causes the alarms to go off. There are no consumer protections offered.

I have asked the mods to review this mess and take appropriate action to rid any unnecessary fallout from strong commentary. Mine included. You are a Toxic fan so I understand your passion. Wire Gods are strongly defended by their followers. Lesson learned.
With this i think understand where ur coming from with ur initial posting.. So if i was in any way assertive to u..i dont mean it personal.. As if i am not mistaken in another thread we agreed on many things in the past tongue.gif
And i agree about that customers need to feel safe about their purchases and that there have been and still are companies who are not really honest... But toxic cables are a honest company..anyone having problems with very long delivery times get a prompt refund if they desire it.. But yeah..deliverytime is long..but i read on his thread he has 3new workers around him now full time to clear the backlog and in dec his delivery time would be 3weeks..exceptions like the venom/ exotic cables not considered..

So my apologies if i came up a bit strong..but as u also know in ur many years of membership here..some brands are a bit aggressive intheir ways..and it wouldnt be the first time somebody tried to stir something up..in this case it was not.. But as u said urself..ur post could be read not in the way u say u intended it..

About being a toxic fan.. I am also a darkvoice 337 fan or any other product i own (or owned) and love and believed in..soon blue circle audio lolz... So i am not a toxic fan specifically... I do find their cables the best for the money they cost..but thats personal taste ofcourse..as with all my other hobbies and urs probably also... But U wont find me posting a brand of same product on a specific product appreciation thread of another brand.. Even if i hate that product and find the product i have better.. Its called respect..pityful not all think like that.. And what we had is just a debate..nothing more biggrin.gif

So.. Water under the bridge... Friends again? beerchug.gif
post #164 of 172
I'm good. The only reason another vendor was brought up was because you asked. It wasn't intended to be an ad. Posting in the early hours has proven to be my mistake. Things get taken wrong or communication is incomplete and cause these things.

Peace.
post #165 of 172
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Originally Posted by Happy Camper View Post

Going to and experience is two different animals. Business practices are typically that the seller invests in their materials to make it reasonably available to the customer. If it's a group buy that states when enough people are gathered, a purchase is made, that's known going in. Your funds are being used to save money. To charge for the order on the front end and then have waits longer than given is not fair to the person putting their money out, irrespective of quality. If I charged my customer for product and collected on the front end and then delayed beyond the corresponded time, I wouldn't be in business. Is it unfair to expect the same of a company charging hundreds of dollars for a few feet of wire? While there are unseen delays that come up, those are communicated and the consumer is aware of the delay. My statement of almost a year is too long. I was inquiring at a time when Toxic was MIA and read some customers nervousness. For that I was making an emotional response. I am sorry.

As for the question of making proprietary material, it's a question. You seem to be strongly offended for a simple question. If the metal was proprietary to one seller, and runs limited to order size, I could see delays based on minimum sized runs. That was my question. I asked for my HE-6 to be hardwired with their cable, I was told they don't do that work. I truly would like to try his wire. I want to do my own hardwiring to my headphones but can't. I shouldn't have to pay for terminations just to cut them off.

You've not been around here long enough to have seen a lot of our community get burned with Singlepower for one example. There have been other cable makers do similar so it's not unknown. Even a hint of silence or extended delays causes the alarms to go off. There are no consumer protections offered.

I have asked the mods to review this mess and take appropriate action to rid any unnecessary fallout from strong commentary. Mine included. You are a Toxic fan so I understand your passion. Wire Gods are strongly defended by their followers. Lesson learned.

 

Firstly, i run a business, i would only sell products knowing that i already had the materials to complete those orders. Every single penny from outstanding orders is still in either my PayPal account, or my Google checkout account and anyone is able to request a refund at any point and this is always processed immediately.

 

I do not request full payment in advance, i have posted many times on my appreciation thread that customers are able to make part payment, with the rest being due when the cable is ready to ship and some have taken advantage of this. I do not and will not take orders without some payment being made in advance, i make custom cables, most times to custom lengths and terminations and should those customers change their minds when the cable is ready and payment due, i am stuck with the cable.

 

As for being MIA, i am always active in my appreciation thread, i check in daily and when i see any concerns i reply immediately. I have also made everyone aware that emails and PM's can take time to reply to, as i need to be making cables. All emails and PM's i receive are always replied to.

 

Many of my customers are well aware of the reasons for the recent delay's, my son being unwell and the passing of a family member and the large majority 95%+ have stuck it through.

 

I have now taken on new staff, moved to a much larger fully equipped workshop with some of the best equipment money can buy, and i intend on having 99% of my delayed orders shipped by the end of the month, followed by 99% of all my current orders hopefully shipped by the 15th of November, as has been stated on my appreciation thread.

 

I am not sure what all this from you is made of, as you don't have an order pending or have ever ordered from me, yet you are complaining more then any of my customers who actually have cables pending from me, many of which are still placing new orders daily.

 

As for me not investing in materials or all the other comments you seem to be making, i have added some pictures for your benefit. Does this look like the inventory of someone packing up shop, and this is what i have here at home, although i don't keep as much at the workshop. Toxic Cables was started with my own personal money and to this day i am still investing my own money that i had long before Toxic existed.  This is not just a business for me, it's something i enjoy, a hobby and a passion of mine.

 

I am not here to take advantage of anyone, i have had some personal problems and issues lately and there have been delays and that's all there is to it. I will not sacrifice the quality of my cables, which they are well known for, for the sake of getting them out quicker so that i don't have to refund people. Those who have waited, will receive a perfectly made cable and will benefit from from other promotions for the life of Toxic Cables, that will be made available exclusively to them, for their patience.

 

This is not Single Power, or any other company, this is Toxic Cables and we are here to stay.

 

 

    

 

    

 

 

 

As you can see, i have the capabilities to furnish a couple thousand cables, and here is a picture i posted on my appreciation thread a couple of days ago, which you saw of some cables i have made when i come home. Keep an eye out at the end of the month and you will see hundreds more.

 

I will now ask that you stop continuing to try and damage my companies reputation even further and maybe wait till the end of the month when i said the majority of all delayed orders will ship, which i am sure you saw my announcement on the appreciation thread, before you go on a witch hunt and leave it as is for now.

 

Once i have cleared my backlog, i will be releasing a new budget line of cables, this will include a new stranded OCC Cryo silver headphone cable, that will start at £115 for a 6ft length, the cheapest stranded silver cable available by far.

 

   


Edited by Toxic Cables - 10/7/13 at 11:10pm

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