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post #31 of 49

Although theoretically a pc should sound better as the drive is less likely to be affected by vibrations than a cd.

Also a modern hard drive will last a decade plus easily and a cd is far far more vulnerable to scratches, dirt and dust.

I personally cannot understand using a cd player as a transport over a pc, as a pc provides all my music in one place and can even be put on a portable hard drive and taken with me everywhere.

 

post #32 of 49

I was suing my PC as a transport. Then the vid card died and the the only way to get it running is to buy the exact same vid card or replace the OS altogether because HP packaged all the freakin' software on the recovery software. Installing a different vid card without a new OS means the drivers on the old card are interfering with the new one's. I've been using my Marantz CDplayer since then, and will do so until I save up the $500+ for a new video card and W7. The complexity of the PC as a transport, not to mention that I'd have a bright monitor running as well as a 750w PSU when all I need is listen, are some reasons why a dedicated CD source isn't still going the way of the dinosaur.

Until, of course, they come up with a music server that doesn't need a monitor. Sure, 15" LCD widescreen monitors are cheap, but in some cases, where do you hang that? My bedroom set-up has no place for it, iPod digital docks don't work with Rockbox (so I'd have to convert everything to ALAC first...), etc etc. Digital isn't always as convenient as the commercials show them to be.

 

 

post #33 of 49
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Jack I'm agree with you on the part of having all music in one place which is why I still use my laptop for main source.  However, I often use my cd-drive on it for something else and I don't wanna open/close them very often. And I've already give up ripping off my CD collections. One of many reasons are I already have a died external hard-drive, which is painful. Second, I don't stay home very often, so I don't wanna use my limited listening session on ripping stuff.. I have more than 100 or even maybe 200 cds..... I used to use my other laptop as transport but I sold it so..  I would much prefer to have a stand alone CD-transport. Besides, Playing CD's on computer has many disadvantage, such as the busy data bus, system noise, bitperfect stream all that stuff. Although I would try the cd-transport to compare to my PC , see how it dose, or I just get a cheaper cd-player lol  

post #34 of 49

I rip my cd's as I buy them so I do not have this problem and I have a backup of all my music on an external drive.

Also a pc should output bitperfect digital so there is not difference between it and a cd players digital output.

If I were you I would just get a cheap cd or dvd player with coaxial out and use that, there is no way that you could tell the difference between this and an expensive cd player.

post #35 of 49

jackmccabe: This is not the thread for it, but the linearity of the S/PDIF waveform varies considerably from device to device as a result of the design. As well, most CD players or transports only have an RCA socket for S/PDIF which doesn't have the correct 75 Ohm characteristic impedance, resulting in further detrimental effects, depending on the DAC being used.  Regardless, the OP was after a transport, as he DOESN'T want to rip his CD collection. 

 

Back on the topic of transports, a local second-hand store has a Sony ES5 (I think) CD player. I have been vaguely wondering for a while if that would be any good as a transport, though, due to its age, I'm not sure it would be too happy reading CD-Rs.

post #36 of 49
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Originally Posted by Currawong View Post

jackmccabe: This is not the thread for it, but the linearity of the S/PDIF waveform varies considerably from device to device as a result of the design. As well, most CD players or transports only have an RCA socket for S/PDIF which doesn't have the correct 75 Ohm characteristic impedance, resulting in further detrimental effects, depending on the DAC being used.  Regardless, the OP was after a transport, as he DOESN'T want to rip his CD collection. 

 

Back on the topic of transports, a local second-hand store has a Sony ES5 (I think) CD player. I have been vaguely wondering for a while if that would be any good as a transport, though, due to its age, I'm not sure it would be too happy reading CD-Rs.


The Sony cd player that was widely known for its performance as a transport was the XA7ES. But the prices on those are a bit high. Even though it displays excellent build quality, there are more cost efficient cd transports available. About the XA5ES, it has the same mechanism as the XA7ES. However, it does not have the shielded transformers, the copper plated chassis, and the higher quality caps that the XA7ES has.

 

post #37 of 49

Currawong the differences between any well designed and aligned transports are so slight that there is absolutely no way you could hear them, yes you could possibly measure absolutely slight differences in jitter but you cannot hear this.

If I was the OP I would just rip my cd's as I listened to them as it does take all of a few minutes to do it and by doing this you are only sacrificing a few minutes of your listening time per session.

The added hassle of a cd player such as organizing the cd's, finding the correct cd and starting up the cd player, will almost take as much time as ripping the cd's and in the long run it will save a lot of time.

post #38 of 49
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Originally Posted by jackmccabe View Post

Currawong the differences between any well designed and aligned transports are so slight that there is absolutely no way you could hear them, yes you could possibly measure absolutely slight differences in jitter but you cannot hear this.

If I was the OP I would just rip my cd's as I listened to them as it does take all of a few minutes to do it and by doing this you are only sacrificing a few minutes of your listening time per session.

The added hassle of a cd player such as organizing the cd's, finding the correct cd and starting up the cd player, will almost take as much time as ripping the cd's and in the long run it will save a lot of time.


No need to be redundant. I believe the OP has already purchased a cd transport.

 

post #39 of 49

Sorry, I was just trying to recommend an alternative option.

post #40 of 49

The problem with transports in general is that there are good ones and cheep ones.The TASCAM CD-200 seems like one of the better bets available for around $250. DIY Audio has a little information on these. More should be coming soon.

post #41 of 49
Thread Starter 

WoW, i didn't know this thread is still alive...anyway, I got a Theta transport for $200 so.... there I think it's a good deal, Although I haven't spent much time on listening them since I was moving and getting in a new apartment, so they just stay in the box after the functionality exam lol. I also got a Sony DVP-9000ES for $99...... Was gonna sent them to wyred4soud to add sacd digital out for my dac. I come back after everything settles down and share my experience with you guys. 

 

Oh, There was significant difference when i use J.river to play music, comparing to my old Jetaudio player( somehow this one has really strong reverb, and less refined.) Not sure if that apply to the CDs on my laptop. 

 

I'm trying to rip off some of the cds that i listen to the most..... It's so painful to do it.... and while i was packing i count 209 cds + some lend to my friends+ the cds i brought from whosale. If i rip them all off it's gonna be like ... i don't know 3,4TB? Besides I got all the pictures and movies and other stuff in my hard drive.... so I guess i would just keep most of them as they are. and only rip the cds i heard most often lol

post #42 of 49


 

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Originally Posted by BrucYSN View Post
I'm trying to rip off some of the cds that i listen to the most..... It's so painful to do it.... and while i was packing i count 209 cds + some lend to my friends+ the cds i brought from whosale. If i rip them all off it's gonna be like ... i don't know 3,4TB? Besides I got all the pictures and movies and other stuff in my hard drive.... so I guess i would just keep most of them as they are. and only rip the cds i heard most often lol


Ripping is actually not too bad. You do a few CDs a day when you are on the computer. You get to listen to all you CDs all over again, especially the ones you rarely pull out. I used the free program EAC, which is slower but does a more thorough job. I have about 220 CDs, They were all extract in its purest and largest form, WAV files. The space they take up is just 120Gs, not really that much, considering the hard drive sizes these days. Now all the CDs are on a NAS to be enjoy throughout the house. bigsmile_face.gif


Edited by ETAHL - 6/25/11 at 8:10pm
post #43 of 49
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Originally Posted by ETAHL View Post


 



Ripping is actually not too bad. You do a few CDs a day when you are on the computer. You get to listen to all you CDs all over again, especially the ones you rarely pull out. I used the free program EAC, which is slower but does a more thorough job. I have about 220 CDs, They were all extract in its purest and largest form, WAV files. The space they take up is just 120Gs, not really that much, considering the hard drive sizes these days. Now all the CDs are on a NAS to be enjoy throughout the house. bigsmile_face.gif


120G sounds pretty good, when i settle down i'm gonna try to compare the cd transport and the computer cd outputs. However the other thing is the J.River is taking somemuch resource on my computer, makes it so slow to do anything fancy lol

 

post #44 of 49
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Originally Posted by computerparts View Post

That's a pretty good budget. You could get a cheap dvd player and get mediocre results. Or you could look for a used Theta Data Basic, PS Audio Lambda, Audio Note CDT-Zero, Audio Research CDT-1, EAD-T1000, Theta Pearl, or Classe CDT-1, Parasound C/BD-2000. There may be others that I can't think of at the moment. The Theta Data Basic is top notch on a budget and shows up more often than others. The Parasound is also a gem with its belt drive. Get any of those transports and a Virtual Dynamics digital cable and you'll never want to go back to using the pc as transport.

 

 

 

Those cables are expensive o.O
 

 

post #45 of 49

Any impressions of the Theta vs the computer yet BrucY ?

 

Peete.

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