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Hmm, there's some problem going on with my Audiophilleo 2 refund. If it delays much longer perhaps it might be better to upgrade to PurePower.

post #647 of 1173
Price showing as $449 for the upgrade now.....
post #648 of 1173
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Price showing as $449 for the upgrade now.....


 

What was it before?

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What was it before?



$399 &  price was  supposed to be good till June.


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$399



Soon to be $499...LOL!

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Hmm, there's some problem going on with my Audiophilleo 2 refund. If it delays much longer perhaps it might be better to upgrade to PurePower.



Contact him directly or open a Paypal dispute.  I was delayed getting a refund and just emailed and asked what was taking so long, next day refund was provided.

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What was it before?



$399 &  price was  supposed to be good till June.



 

Made me go hmmm. Too bad if the price was increased, but I might understand (to a certain extent) if there were problems finalizing the design, which we know now was not finished at the time it was unveiled. Still not happy about the new price.

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Hmm, there's some problem going on with my Audiophilleo 2 refund. If it delays much longer perhaps it might be better to upgrade to PurePower.



Contact him directly or open a Paypal dispute.  I was delayed getting a refund and just emailed and asked what was taking so long, next day refund was provided.



 

Delivery Confirmation showed the A2 was delivered on 3/29 and after inquiry on its status (4/10) by me, received request on 4/13 for tracking number because they couldn't find the box. 

 

I'd like to think they're busy and will take care of it, and if I went with the upgrade, I'd prefer to have it with my burn-in original unit.

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$399 &  price was  supposed to be good till June.

 

Well, that's not reassuring.

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Sent mine in yesterday for the PurePower upgrade.....

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Sent mine in yesterday for the PurePower upgrade.....

 

Did it cost you $399 or $449?

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So I apologize in advance for those who consider this post too off-topic.  It's just I don't know any other place on head-fi that's so interested in USB/Spdif transports.  My Audiophilleo sold earlier this week, and I'm glad to be past that chapter.  Needless to say, I was disappointed when it didn't make any difference in my system.  Though perhaps I should be happy about that.  Anyhow, today's the day I tried the Zodiac + Wavelink with SR-009s and KGSSHV.  I wanted to rule out the possibility that the LCD-2 was glossing over the differences in transports, and that was decided with today's tests.  T-Money thought he could hear a slight difference at first listen too, but with his back turned it was clear nothing could be differentiated accurately.  I failed those blind tests easily.

 

Before you call us tin-eared objectivists, we had another interesting blind test with hi-res files vs. the same hi-res files but downconverted to 16/44.  Now any dogmatic head-fi objectivist will tell you it's an exercise in futility, but we did it all the same, and both of us curiously did very well.  We both agreed the hi-res files had an extremely small bit more ambiance & naturalness, and we were both able to guess hi-res vs low-res, on average, 70-80% accurately over 3-4 tests (5-7 random sample rates each).  I think those are pretty good numbers.

 

Some other interesting things -- with the RWA Isabellina DAC connected to the KGSSHV/SR-009 system (volume maxed on amp and DAC) the noise floor that could be heard was significantly higher than the Zodiac in the same configuration.  So it seems batteries don't solve everything.  /  The Wavelink didn't play nice with the Isabellina (sample rate mismatch or something), so I didn't get to test the Wavelink's effects on a different converter.  

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Sent mine in yesterday for the PurePower upgrade.....

 

Did it cost you $399 or $449?


$399 - got in just before the rise.
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So I apologize in advance for those who consider this post too off-topic.  It's just I don't know any other place on head-fi that's so interested in USB/Spdif transports.  My Audiophilleo sold earlier this week, and I'm glad to be past that chapter.  Needless to say, I was disappointed when it didn't make any difference in my system.  Though perhaps I should be happy about that.  Anyhow, today's the day I tried the Zodiac + Wavelink with SR-009s and KGSSHV.  I wanted to rule out the possibility that the LCD-2 was glossing over the differences in transports, and that was decided with today's tests.  T-Money thought he could hear a slight difference at first listen too, but with his back turned it was clear nothing could be differentiated accurately.  I failed those blind tests easily.

 

Before you call us tin-eared objectivists, we had another interesting blind test with hi-res files vs. the same hi-res files but downconverted to 16/44.  Now any dogmatic head-fi objectivist will tell you it's an exercise in futility, but we did it all the same, and both of us curiously did very well.  We both agreed the hi-res files had an extremely small bit more ambiance & naturalness, and we were both able to guess hi-res vs low-res, on average, 70-80% accurately over 3-4 tests (5-7 random sample rates each).  I think those are pretty good numbers.

 

Some other interesting things -- with the RWA Isabellina DAC connected to the KGSSHV/SR-009 system (volume maxed on amp and DAC) the noise floor that could be heard was significantly higher than the Zodiac in the same configuration.  So it seems batteries don't solve everything.  /  The Wavelink didn't play nice with the Isabellina (sample rate mismatch or something), so I didn't get to test the Wavelink's effects on a different converter.  

 

"So I apologize in advance for those who consider this post too off-topic.  It's just I don't know any other place on head-fi that's so interested in USB/Spdif transports.  My Audiophilleo sold earlier this week, and I'm glad to be past that chapter.

 

Correct...totally off topic. Your post here has nothing to do with the title of the thread other than you seemingly celebrating the sale of your Audiophilleo.

 

The other place you could post on Head-fi is called "New Topic"...suggest you try it someday.  biggrin.gif

 

Frizzup

post #659 of 1173

Well thanks for the snide comment.  When I was considering the AP2, I wanted more impressions of the Wavelink and OR5, and the question of how resolving does a system have to be for you to hear a difference was definitely important, so while you may find what I posted useless, others might not.  If you didn't figure it out, the comment on sample rates indicates that we had better luck guessing sample rates than we did transports.  Again, that may help a potential buyer put things in perspective.  At least where the Zodiac is concerned.  The noise floor is totally off-topic, yes.  

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Originally Posted by sphinxvc View Post

So I apologize in advance for those who consider this post too off-topic.  It's just I don't know any other place on head-fi that's so interested in USB/Spdif transports.  My Audiophilleo sold earlier this week, and I'm glad to be past that chapter.  Needless to say, I was disappointed when it didn't make any difference in my system.  Though perhaps I should be happy about that.  Anyhow, today's the day I tried the Zodiac + Wavelink with SR-009s and KGSSHV.  I wanted to rule out the possibility that the LCD-2 was glossing over the differences in transports, and that was decided with today's tests.  T-Money thought he could hear a slight difference at first listen too, but with his back turned it was clear nothing could be differentiated accurately.  I failed those blind tests easily.

 

Before you call us tin-eared objectivists, we had another interesting blind test with hi-res files vs. the same hi-res files but downconverted to 16/44.  Now any dogmatic head-fi objectivist will tell you it's an exercise in futility, but we did it all the same, and both of us curiously did very well.  We both agreed the hi-res files had an extremely small bit more ambiance & naturalness, and we were both able to guess hi-res vs low-res, on average, 70-80% accurately over 3-4 tests (5-7 random sample rates each).  I think those are pretty good numbers.

 

Some other interesting things -- with the RWA Isabellina DAC connected to the KGSSHV/SR-009 system (volume maxed on amp and DAC) the noise floor that could be heard was significantly higher than the Zodiac in the same configuration.  So it seems batteries don't solve everything.  /  The Wavelink didn't play nice with the Isabellina (sample rate mismatch or something), so I didn't get to test the Wavelink's effects on a different converter.  

 

This is Wavelink vs AP2 right?  Guess they are both pretty high end converters - good to know there isn't much difference in it.  I think once you get a decent converter with decent power supply and decent drivers, anything more than that is splitting hairs, and more likely than not, esp if your DAC has a well designed digital input.

 

A while ago I did a test with different SPDIF cables from my AudioGD DI to a NFB-10 ES where both cables were connected, and I could switch between them seemlessly.  For the life of me I couldn't tell the difference (I was using LCD-2 back then.)  I think there is a bit of a problem psychology where we blame irritating characteristics in our system on a certain component, and declare that alleviation of this characteristic is a sign that the new component works when numerous other factors could be contributing.

 

I think I might pass on the AP2 plus purepower battery seeing as it is so expensive and probably wont produce significantly better results than a decent XMOS based transport which is cheaper...

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