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post #16 of 20

The DBA-02's build was fine the way I saw them.  I didn't feel underwhelmed by them when I owned them.  It's not like they're super high end but not junk either.  For the price point, they seemed to fit well with other products at that price.  I've seen better.  I've seen worse.  Earphone wear and tear is more a byproduct of how it's used, and that's largely a user issue.  There can be poor material choices that a manufacturer may use that may inevitably cause problems, even on high end earphones that are very, very well built.  At the end of the day, it's all about the sound.

 

The GR07 may possibly be one of the new great buys on this forum, but reviews are minimal so far.  Even if quite good, it will still come down to personal preference in terms of if the earphone actually fits your taste or not.  An earphone can be extremely good but still a very poor fit for you.  The goal is the mix of good audio quality as well as the coloration/presentation that you actually prefer.  You really want the mix of both to actually enjoy and like the product.  Good audio quality isn't good enough.  Favorable coloration isn't good enough.  The big challenge of this hobby is finding that mix that really suits you personally.  I and many others have used a pile of product in search of those that fit us well.  I've personally run across many very good earphones that I valued as a good product but ultimately didn't suit my tastes.  I've also found that I am more willing to live with a product that isn't as good sonically as long as it is a better fit to my tastes.  Take that as you will, but my suggestion is worry more about how you want the earphone to sound and focus on that aspect the most.  Find the products that are geared to your liking.  This is why I asked you the question.  However, I really didn't ask about what you listen to.  Rock is rock.  Techno is techno.  They're just music, and music can be played through a wide variety of earphones fine. 

 

It's not about what you listen to.  It's about how you want to hear it.

 

Your response:

"well i mainly listen to alt rock, pop punk, some hip hop, i really listen to a variety of music..also screamo at times

someone recommended shure to me before, but i heard those wouldn't be the best for bass and stuff"

 

It doesn't really tell me much at all about how you like to hear music.  It's not what you hear.  It's how you hear.  I'll give some examples to help clarify.

 

Tonality:  warm, neutral, bright

This is a basic balance of the earphone and the general focus of sound.  Some people like a lot of bass.  Some like a lot of highs.  Others it may all be about the midrange.  You will have a certain preference for this.

 

Clarity/detail: smooth, natural, details

People have certain preferences in how much detail they want, how heavily articulated or edgy they want the sound.  Some like a very smooth, laid back presentation, softened, rounded, buttery.  Others like their music highly detailed, aggressive, edgy, articulating every little nuance.  There's a wide variety to this.

 

Presentation: forward, natural, laid back

Some people like an aggressive sound.  They want to be engaged and be part of the music.  The presentation may be aggressive, dynamic, energetic, powerful.  Others may prefer a more passive listening experience where the sound is just causally there in the back ground.  You listen but you're not engaged.  The music is softer, more delicate, playful, and light.  Again, there is a lot of variation to this, and you will have your own preference.

 

Notice I say nothing about music, songs.  The earphone will have a certain sound signature.  It will present sound in a particular way.  This way may favor certain types of music and sound odd with other types, but it's not really about the specific music being played.  It's about how that music is presented.  It's about finding an earphone that presents the sound the way you want.  This may correlate to hearing certain songs you like in a certain way, but that's about it.

 

So, how do you like to hear your music?

post #17 of 20
Thread Starter 

sorry, i didn't realize i had another response.  I do like to have more bass but still really detailed. as for presentation, i like it to be a forward sound

post #18 of 20

OK well I have been using my new GR07 for the past 2 days and without them being fully burned in I already can say they are the nicest IEM I have owned. Full bass that has wonderfull detail and texture, mids that are slightly warm but again detailed and engaging, with treble that rivals my full sized Denon D7000. I like them better than my other current high end IEM the SM3 and the other high end IEM's I have moved on from, namely MTPC/G, Senn IE8, Radius DDM. Each of my high end IEM's had aspects that are better than the GR07 but not by a lot and none were as cohesive or well rounded as the GR07.

 

Those Spiders look interesting though and if they have a money back guarantee...  But going on what I know I whole heartedly recommend the GR07.

post #19 of 20
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Originally Posted by mvw2 View Post

The DBA-02's build was fine the way I saw them.  I didn't feel underwhelmed by them when I owned them.  It's not like they're super high end but not junk either.  For the price point, they seemed to fit well with other products at that price.  I've seen better.  I've seen worse.  Earphone wear and tear is more a byproduct of how it's used, and that's largely a user issue.  There can be poor material choices that a manufacturer may use that may inevitably cause problems, even on high end earphones that are very, very well built.  At the end of the day, it's all about the sound.

 

The GR07 may possibly be one of the new great buys on this forum, but reviews are minimal so far.  Even if quite good, it will still come down to personal preference in terms of if the earphone actually fits your taste or not.  An earphone can be extremely good but still a very poor fit for you.  The goal is the mix of good audio quality as well as the coloration/presentation that you actually prefer.  You really want the mix of both to actually enjoy and like the product.  Good audio quality isn't good enough.  Favorable coloration isn't good enough.  The big challenge of this hobby is finding that mix that really suits you personally.  I and many others have used a pile of product in search of those that fit us well.  I've personally run across many very good earphones that I valued as a good product but ultimately didn't suit my tastes.  I've also found that I am more willing to live with a product that isn't as good sonically as long as it is a better fit to my tastes.  Take that as you will, but my suggestion is worry more about how you want the earphone to sound and focus on that aspect the most.  Find the products that are geared to your liking.  This is why I asked you the question.  However, I really didn't ask about what you listen to.  Rock is rock.  Techno is techno.  They're just music, and music can be played through a wide variety of earphones fine. 

 

It's not about what you listen to.  It's about how you want to hear it.

 

Your response:

"well i mainly listen to alt rock, pop punk, some hip hop, i really listen to a variety of music..also screamo at times

someone recommended shure to me before, but i heard those wouldn't be the best for bass and stuff"

 

It doesn't really tell me much at all about how you like to hear music.  It's not what you hear.  It's how you hear.  I'll give some examples to help clarify.

 

Tonality:  warm, neutral, bright

This is a basic balance of the earphone and the general focus of sound.  Some people like a lot of bass.  Some like a lot of highs.  Others it may all be about the midrange.  You will have a certain preference for this.

 

Clarity/detail: smooth, natural, details

People have certain preferences in how much detail they want, how heavily articulated or edgy they want the sound.  Some like a very smooth, laid back presentation, softened, rounded, buttery.  Others like their music highly detailed, aggressive, edgy, articulating every little nuance.  There's a wide variety to this.

 

Presentation: forward, natural, laid back

Some people like an aggressive sound.  They want to be engaged and be part of the music.  The presentation may be aggressive, dynamic, energetic, powerful.  Others may prefer a more passive listening experience where the sound is just causally there in the back ground.  You listen but you're not engaged.  The music is softer, more delicate, playful, and light.  Again, there is a lot of variation to this, and you will have your own preference.

 

Notice I say nothing about music, songs.  The earphone will have a certain sound signature.  It will present sound in a particular way.  This way may favor certain types of music and sound odd with other types, but it's not really about the specific music being played.  It's about how that music is presented.  It's about finding an earphone that presents the sound the way you want.  This may correlate to hearing certain songs you like in a certain way, but that's about it.

 

So, how do you like to hear your music?




Thanks this is great info. I'm new to the audiophile world and I find it hard to express what I want.

 

I have a MS Pro and am in absolute love with the sound. I've been trying to get a sound signiture to match in a IEM/Canalphone for myself, but I'm not doing to well.

At first I had a Klipsch S4 and enjoyed it, but I gave it away before my ER-4P arrived. Now I loved the detail and exceptional clarity, but it was a little light on the bass for my tastes. Also a comfortable fit was always a battle and the microphonics drove me a bit dilly (I move around a bit when using my ipod)

I have since sold the ER-4P and got a pair of Westone 3 and I love the sound, but I some how find it a bit fatiguing to listen too after a few hours. I can't make out what it is. I'm busy trying out various tips and I can say the results have been promising.

I would actually now like to get a second pair of iem's in the range of $100 - $200 which I can take to work. It needs to be a bit tough and have reasonable isolation as I work in a noisy enviroment.

 

So how would you describe my MS Pro's sound? What's the Sony MDR-EX510SL like?

 

Your comments would be appreciated.

 

Ben


Edited by SirBenn21 - 5/29/11 at 5:49am
post #20 of 20
Thread Starter 

thanks for all the responses! the realvoice look nice, but my main concern is build quality...i take relatively good care of my IEMs, but i've had 3 pairs that broke within 2 months. these were skullcandy (before i found this site) and i know not to get those anymore. i wouldn't mind trying out the realvoice, but if they broke within a year, my mom would probably not let me buy IEMs anymore.  i pay for all my IEMs, but she really doesn't like the idea of having earphones in my ears..and i'm only 15 so if she says i can't buy them, i can't exactly drive to a store or order online with a credit card.  i know skullcandy is pretty bad in build quality, but now my mom thinks all IEMs will break easily..and i've sent in the skullcandy's and got credit back but i don't like dealing with all the shipping and everything

so basically i've narrowed it down to shure se215s and westone 1..i've read reviews saying westone has really good cables, but i like the idea of removable cables on the se215s if the cable did break.  i'm going to finally buy IEMs this week, so i'm leaning towards westone 1. any input on the westone?

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