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So I've been out of the loop for quite a while. I never considered myself to be an audiophile, but I could always appreciate budget low-end audiophile equipment. I used to rock a X-Fi XtremeMusic, Klipsch Pro-Media's, and Grado SR80's, but I ran into some financial troubles and had to sell a lot of my toys ~5 years ago. Well times have changed and my work as a web developer has steadily increased to the point where I can barely handle it all. I had been living pretty scantily all this time though, just in case work slowed down for a period of time, but it never did... and only continues to increase. So I guess it's about time to indulge in the audial pleasures after being patient for so long.

 

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Ok, so I recently built a new machine for work, play, and leisure. It's an absolute beast in every department except its audio capabilities. They are absolutely horrid. I have onboard sound & incredibly cheap Logitech headphones/speakers. I want the whole experience now. I use this machine for everything: watching tv/movies, playing games, but most importantly, listening to music. Nearly the entire day while I work and into the night. I listen to everything though: rock, rap, classical, jazz, electronica, and everything in between, so I know that makes things a little more difficult.

 

After all the research I've done, I've come to a reasonable degree of decisiveness, but I wanted to get some feedback before I actually pull the trigger.

 

Soundcard: ASUS Xonar Essence ST (~$190.00)

This seems to be the best choice and value if I want to keep it simple and not deal with an external amp. I hear a lot of praise for the internal amp saying that you can't get much better for the money. I may go the external amp route at some point, but I really want to cross that bridge down the road after I wet my beak. Going ST instead of STX because of the apparent lack of jitter due to some hardware differences. Am I completely wrong here and would I be better off going with a cheaper sound card and external amp instead?

 

Speakers: Swan M200MkII ($289.00) or Swan M200MkIII ($399.00)

The amount of praise Swan seems to get is pretty hard to ignore. I've looked into M-Audio, Audioengine, Klipsch, and countless other brands only to come back to Swan every time. I was originally interested in the Swan D1080MkII08, but it seems that there is a very large boost in overall sound quality as well as bass by going up to the M200 line. I'm just not sure if it is worth going from the II to the III and I'm having a hard time finding any clear advantages. I hear it's better overall, but is it $110.00 better? Unfortunately there is no where nearby where I can test them out, so I may just decide to go big and not have any regrets later on. There is still a side of me that wants to get the best bang for my buck. Any comparable other options I may be missing?

 

Headphones: Grado SR325si ($299.00)

Now these I have chosen without any indecisiveness. Like I said, I used to own a pair of SR80's and I loved them. I am a huge fan of the Grado "sound". I had a chance to test out everything from the SR60's to the RS-1's and the 325's seemed like the sweet spot for me as they sounded nearly as good as the RS1's, but at half the price. They were already fully broken in and the "harsh" highs that people speak of didn't seem apparent at all, so I already know what to expect after breaking them in. Unless someone wants to convince me that the RS line is that much better, $300 is about as much as I would like to spend on headphones.

 

What do you think? Am I making a huge mistake or is this a good direction to be heading starting out in the audiophile world?


Edited by thekyle - 4/27/11 at 6:59pm
post #2 of 9

Personally I'd just buy a proper stereo receiver and non powered speakers and run a digital or analog line between the receiver and the pc.

 

I did the powered speaker thing for a long time and eventually I wanted to move up to something better and after doing a lot of research I decided to buy a Harmon/Kardon receiver and Hsu HB-1 Mk2's.

Of course the Hsu's aren't meant to deliver bass (though they blew me away by themselves) and are meant to be cut off at 80 Hz and paired with a sub. Now I own a Hsu sub which is the best sub I have ever had the pleasure of hearing/feeling, but that is hanging out with my home theater system and I wanted to spend less money on a sub for my dedicated stereo system so I went with a Velodyne CT-150. Let me just say that this combo is amazing. More than I'll ever use for sure.

 

If you have not heard Hsu Research speakers or subs or haven't read reviews...you should.

 

http://www.hsuresearch.com/

http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/hb-1.html

 

I'd like to add that I live fairly close to Hsu's HQ and I have auditioned their equipment after reading about them over at AVS. Everytime I have auditioned I have been literally blown away and walked out with big boxes.

 

As for the above items...I have heard many great things about Swan and that sound card is a great choice but I'd grab the STX myself and I'm actually going to.

 

I can't fault the cans because I just bought a set myself.

 

I know my answer wasn't what you were asking but since no one else posted I figured Id give you another alternative. Of course my way is more expensive but well worth it.

 

 


Edited by Amish - 4/28/11 at 11:05am
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Thread Starter 

I wish I could do that, but unfortunately I just can't invest that kind of money right now. Like I said, I'm upgrading from some pretty terrible stuff, so whatever I get is still going to be worlds ahead. I'll go ahead and bookmark those bookshelf speakers though for down the road. I appreciate your comments on my choices though.

 

I went ahead and ordered the Asus Xonar ST and Grado 325si headphones. I just want to do a little more research on speakers before I commit to something. I may try to get ahold of Jon from the Audio Insider and see what he thinks. I hear he's really helpful and not just trying to make you walk out with the most expensive item possible. It also seems that they have some open box specials for a lot of their speakers for ~20% off, so I might check that out as well.

post #4 of 9

i found the xonar essence st too bright to use with akg k702, i was getting ear fatigue/headaches after an hour of listening to music.  i guess you could always change the opamps, have look here - http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/421890/the-xonar-essence-stx-q-a-tweaking-impressions-thread

 

can't tell you anything useful about speakers, i'm a noob in that area.

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Thread Starter 

Are you still using the STX or did you get something else? I couldn't seem to find anything that offered what the STX offered without going external and into a new price point. I imagine some tweaking could cut down on the brightness a bit, but replacing the opamps would probably be the last option if it was still to bright. I don't get headaches from that kind of detail, which is why I like the Grado's so much, but thanks for the heads up.


Edited by thekyle - 4/29/11 at 4:55pm
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i longer own the soundcard, even after 300 hours burn my akg's sounded too bright with xonar essence st so i sold it, and bought burson ha-160d.

 

 

post #7 of 9

I would suggest going the passive speakers also. You can find an integrated amp like this

 

http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?intatran&1307991981&/NAD-C320BEE-gently-used-in-ori

 

and then get something like the paradigm atoms or titans

 

http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?spkrmoni&1308178447&/Paradigm-Titans-

 

and then get an optical or usb dac instead of that sound card.

 

OR

 

http://www.nuforce.com/hp/products/icon2/index.php

 

and whatever speaker and headphone that fits the budget. Simple. Never settle for powered junk unless you're gonna throw down 500+ per near-fi monitor.

post #8 of 9
powered junk haHA! nice euphemism...
post #9 of 9
Actives do have the advantage of a better crossover, there downsides are with a amp in the back theres less space for the airflow/acoustics of the box, also the amps have to be small so that probley means small power caps and things and the cooling of the amps isn't good, a class a/b amp with a tiny heatsink is not gonna cool it properly class a/b amps produce a lot of heat.

If your gonna for a passive set-up choose the speakers first and spend the most money on them, solid state amps mostly sound the same you just nedd something well designed with a decent power circuit.
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