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post #1 of 10
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Hi guys, I'm a newbie here.

Very recently I stumbled on the above, SUPER HIGH MATERIAL cd, I think through e-bay, anyway I ended up on the JapanCd web site.

Invented by the wacky guys at JVC, this special polycarbonate layer is supposed to make the cd SOUND BETTER.

The science is kinda simple, the layer used gives a much lower ERROR rate for the reading laser, due to the more precise manufactureing process, so a better reading by the cd, should translate to more information coming in to ya lug holes, therefore SOUNDING BETTER.

Actually I dunno, it may or may not work, over here across the pond, one of our very serious Hi-Fi monthly mags did a like for like album test, they found the Jap SHM version to be mastered about 1:5db higher, but the sonics to be about the same.

Personally I adore these versions of cd's. Not for the silly reason stated above, but for the loving way these cd's are crafted.

Considering my megere means I am a proud owner of 9 albums on SHM, they are;

1) Steve Windwood - Back In The High Life Again
2) Bjork - Debut
3) 10cc - 10 out of 10
4) Tom Waits - Rain Dogs
5) John Fogerty - Centerfield
6) Carpenters - A Song For You
7) Don Henley - Building The Perfect Beast
8) Don Henley - The End OF The Innocence
9) Joe Jackson - Night & Day

8 of the 9 are mini Lp's, they come with original art work, a main cardboard sleeve, a proper inner sleeve that mimics the original Lp version, with an inner inner anti static sleeve for protection. The cd its self LOOKS to be of higher quality.

Now, the important bit, how they sound.

All of my 9 have 1 thing in common, they are all re-issues of favourite albums of mine that herald from round about mid 70's to late 80's.

In this respect I have been able to do a like for like comparison for each album.

Unsuprisingly, to my ears they sound SOoooooooo much better the very early cd mastering efforts, there is more clarity & subtle information, on the album Back In The High Life Again, one I have played to death, playing the SHM-CD against the original 1986 release, it is louder, but not to the extent where you get clipping or overload, there is much better clarity & separation between the instruments, decay on individual notes is more noticeable, it just sounds so much smoother, & the original 86 release was one of the better ones too. All sound better than the original releases, & to be honest, even if they did not, the premium paid is worth the attention to detail just in the presentation of the album art work, (from Amazon the average price paid is about £8 per cd, as apposed to a current SHM-CD release price of about £25 with postage, an out of print from e-bay considerably more).

I LOVE these SHM reissues, my next purchase will hopefully be the reissue of Thin Lizzy's Live & Dangerous, yippy!!

So sorry for the long & protracted post, but I am really passionate about these things.

Anybody else have some, what do you think about them??
Edited by Walking Spanish - 4/27/11 at 2:54pm
post #2 of 10

I currently only own Stevie Wonder - Songs in the Key of Life on SHM-SACD.  For me this is the definitive version of this album in any format I've heard (original Tamla CDs, remaster CD, and 2 LP).  Haven't heard the AF gold disc, but I've read that it's not much of a significant improvement sonically to the original Tamla CDs.  However, the SHM-SACD is more warm, full-bodied, and has much more dynamic range, which is a significant improvement over the RBCDs.  The SHM-SACD is truly a pleasure to listen to, and I can crank it up without it becoming fatiquing in the least.  I can't imagine this album sounding any better than this.  The SHM-SACD seems to be purposely built and of much higher quality than your standard run-of-the-mill CD/ HDCD/ SACD.  IMO this is as good as it gets.  As expensive as these discs are, however, I will be very selective about which SHMs I'll be investing in.   The only other downside is that these are typically single stereo layer only (no mulitchannel) and there is no redbook layer as far as I'm aware of.  This holds true for SITKOL, so I'm assuming it applies to other SHM-SACD titles. 


Edited by BluFalcon - 4/28/11 at 11:33am
post #3 of 10
Thread Starter 

Ta for the tug BlueFalcon.

Yep, have seen these listed on the Japancd site, if they were superheroes they would come with a megabuck of anabolic steroid's!

They have just released T-Rex Electric Warrior on the SACD version, I would love to save for it, but already have it on DVD-Audio, & still want stuff I have not got on any format of Hi-Def audio.

Songs In The Key Of Life is a great album, AS is sweet.

Must be a pain not to have the multi channel option, but from a totally selfish point of view I have lost my 7.1 speaker system, (down to stereo only), I REALLY do miss the DTS 96/24 multi versions on my Genesis box sets, ahh sugar pops!

Really glad you can tell the difference in sound quality, for your fav albums I think these SHM vanilla or SACD's are well worth the effort, don't matter how great your playing equipment is, a better mastered recording is where the ball starts to roll.

I will have a gander & see if a SHM-SACD is on my list to get, again mate, thanks for the reply.

post #4 of 10

I thought that the whole SHM thing was nothing but marketing gimmick. Then I got DS&Mark Knopfler Best Of SHM-CD. And it's by far the best sounding CD I have(and I have quite a few great sounding CD's). Go figure...

post #5 of 10

The way the mastering was done is far more important than whether the CD is a SHM, this could explain the above case. 

post #6 of 10
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Originally Posted by Inks View Post

The way the mastering was done is far more important than whether the CD is a SHM, this could explain the above case. 



True indeed.  A poorly mastered recording is not going improve because a superior material was used to manufacture the medium (gold discs, SHM, etc.) 

 

post #7 of 10

I've got a bunch of SHM cd's[the Led Zeppelin box,Humble Pie's Rockin' The Fillmore,Joe Walsh's Can't Argue W/A Sick Mind/The Smoker You Drink,Lynyrd Skynyrd's Southern By The Grace Of God/One More From The Road]and they're all quite good imho.

post #8 of 10
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Originally Posted by BluFalcon View Post





True indeed.  A poorly mastered recording is not going improve because a superior material was used to manufacture the medium (gold discs, SHM, etc.) 

 


 

Almost every audio enthusiast should be aware of that and there is no argument here. In other words, what I was trying to say- coincidence or not, my best sounding CD is SHM.

post #9 of 10

Well it's still good to clarify because people can easily get the wrong idea. 

post #10 of 10
Thread Starter 

Okydokey then, we kinda/sort of agree, the quality in these SHM cd's is more down to the individual care with which the recording is given new life with a sweet re-master, however, the QUALITY of the overall product also includes this special polyoncarbonate layer, wether this actually helps the sound quality is to be honest, up to the individual in question to give a %.

 

I would not discount it JUST as a simple marketing ploy or gimmick, surely if you do, then we might as well just listen to badly compressed 128kbs mp3's on earbuds with very thick ear wax?

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