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post #9556 of 16541

Depends, do you like to follow along with it scientifically not making any difference, like many other audiophile claims? Or do you prefer to let your ears do the listening and see if you prefer it?  I wouldn't buy one myself, but I'm objective in this hobby. However It is your enjoyment that comes first, and if you enjoy it more, nobody can take that from you.

post #9557 of 16541
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Originally Posted by PuffyElvis View Post
 

Most audiophiles would probably state that there is a difference, but it is small and not always an improvement.  It's at the bottom on my list of improvements, but it still makes the list.  I'd make sure you have a good pair of interconnects between your DAC and amp, that has a greater effect than power or USB cables.

 

It's also worth stating that part of the audiophile game is chasing that ever elusive last inch of improvement along perfection yardstick.  How much you choose to play that game is a personal choice.


Recently there was one person (on these very forums, one of the Schiit threads I believe) that had a "more expensive" gold plated USB cable and had popping and clicking issues, they found an old cheap printer cable in the bin and it 'fixed' the issue.

post #9558 of 16541

Alright question for you guys in regards to damaging these cans.

 

Besides overamping and/or taking a hammer to them, is there any other way you can damage the actual driver? I would imagine it would take a lot against the magnetic drivers.

 

And speaking of amping...how will you know you have blown them? Just by distorted sound quality? Anyone have any experience with this?

post #9559 of 16541
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Originally Posted by Alexnova View Post
 

Alright question for you guys in regards to damaging these cans.

 

Besides overamping and/or taking a hammer to them, is there any other way you can damage the actual driver? I would imagine it would take a lot against the magnetic drivers.

 

And speaking of amping...how will you know you have blown them? Just by distorted sound quality? Anyone have any experience with this?

Channel imbalance and distortion would let you know. Perhaps rattling if something goes loose. I am positive the only thing that can damage the drivers (from an ordinary hp amp) is the amp clipping badly. They can probably handle several watts. The audeze lcd2 is specced for 15 watts for a duration of 200ms for example. Not sure how that'd translate into real world perfoormance. Anyone wanna try?

Well, it might be a bad idea to blow compressed air on them as well.. Or sticking sharp objects into the driver. 

post #9560 of 16541

I think these would be hard to break

Planar drivers by way of there design are harder to damage than dynamic drivers in terms of overpowering

When I worked in a speaker factory it was usually the xover that would melt down first causing a short which would then blow the driver

Low power from a weak amp is more likely to damage drivers through distortion

post #9561 of 16541

These cans sound so damn tight. Great punch. Tapping my feet even with a song like Let her go by Passenger. :D

post #9562 of 16541
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Originally Posted by FlySweep View Post

That's certainly an option, Swan.. I'd opt to use the TD-11's "tube out" to a nice, transparent solid state amp (that provided ample current into low impedance loads.. which is what most planars tend to like).  Perhaps something like the Schiit Magni or Asgard 2.  A few people have run a tube buffer to their Emotiva XDA-1 (with the HE-500 running of the XDA's speaker taps) and found the combo to be excellent.  But really, I'd be more than happy with the TD-11's headphone out.. I did have the HE-500 and TD-11 at the same time (for a very short period) and remember the HE-500 to sound superb from the TD-11's headphone output.
Flysweep, off topic but what do you think about the uber Bitfrost dac/Lyr combo replacing the TD-11?

If I wanted the same tube flavor for my studio monitors and HP. I can't find any direct dac comparisons but the uber-Bitfrost does compare favorably against other more higher end dacs.

How much of a upgrade do you think I'd hear?
post #9563 of 16541
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Originally Posted by Chris_Himself View Post

That sounds like quitter talk LOL

Lyr master race, just go nuts. TREAT YOSELF

You may be right while listening to my favorite Bill Evans hi-res I noticed some hot spots. A friend did some test with LCD-3's going from Burston to TD-11 and heard the same sizzle.

What do you think about the Uber/Lyr combo as a preamp and HP amp for active monitors/HE-500?
If I make this investment do you think it'll be a end game for my CURRENT desktop setup (monitors and headphones)?

Until I win the lottery and get my PMC active stack main system OMG!
Just the thought:
65k monitors
10k bal dac
10k bal tube pre
5k bal tube HP amp
5k bal HP
5k cords/interconnects
100k Christmas list

I should look for the dream system thread I can't be the only one!
Edited by SwanSong - 11/29/13 at 1:23pm
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Never seen such a thread
post #9565 of 16541
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Never seen such a thread
It never rains in So Calif but today, it brought the dreamer in me out.
+1 to starting one 😉!
post #9566 of 16541

I'm thinking of making my own custom cable for my HE-500. I'll probably terminate it with a 4-pin XLR plug. What do you guys think of the Mogami Neglex W2534 cable? And also, is it alright if I remove all of the jacket so that I can make a 4 strand braid?

Also, cables that have more than 4 strands such as the ALO Salty Pepper or Reference 16 how did they solder it to the connectors?

post #9567 of 16541
If you are going to have a dream rig, it doesn't involve headphones.
post #9568 of 16541
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Originally Posted by VortexBlast View Post
 

I'm thinking of making my own custom cable for my HE-500. I'll probably terminate it with a 4-pin XLR plug. What do you guys think of the Mogami Neglex W2534 cable? And also, is it alright if I remove all of the jacket so that I can make a 4 strand braid?

Also, cables that have more than 4 strands such as the ALO Salty Pepper or Reference 16 how did they solder it to the connectors?

That is exactly what I used and have found it to be great.  I didn't even bother stripping the wires out from their rubber jacket.  I think it's better and more protected that way while being flexible enough.  When used more than 4 strands, it will be a little more bulky at the connectors but if you arrange the wires well, they are still very manageable.  Gluck.

post #9569 of 16541
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post
 

That is exactly what I used and have found it to be great.  I didn't even bother stripping the wires out from their rubber jacket.  I think it's better and more protected that way while being flexible enough.  When used more than 4 strands, it will be a little more bulky at the connectors but if you arrange the wires well, they are still very manageable.  Gluck.

I was thinking of stripping the wires out and put each connectors individually in a nylon sleeve and then do a 4 braid for aesthetic reasons.

Is there a benefit to add more strands?

post #9570 of 16541

I traded my Burson Soloist SL for a Schiit Lyr with a other Headifer because I'm just too curious about the Lyr with the HE-500 and Bifrost. Hope I won't regret it. Will be able to post some comparison next week. Not side by side unfortanately.

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