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Thanks Chris.

Some nice observations there. Now I wonder if the Audio GD amps are warm or bright or neutral. Of course most often neutral is the word I hear about AGD.
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Thanks Chris.

Some nice observations there. Now I wonder if the Audio GD amps are warm or bright or neutral. Of course most often neutral is the word I hear about AGD.

 

Yeah they're fairly neutral. It's really difficult given there are like a thousand amps out there and we don't have a baseline for what "neutral" is.

 

I'd say that I don't inherently notice a lack of bass, too much, nor do I notice rolled highs or shrieking brightness compared to some of my other favorites. The Schiit Mjolnir when paired with Gungnir is a tad bright but it's a welcome addition to the LCD-2 signature anyway. When paired with HD800 it still sounds amazing.

 

A well executed amp shouldn't really receive praise, it's like telling the shovel "good job for digging holes" IMO. The happiest audiophiles usually are the ones who don't post and thats how I was feeling for a while actually. I haven't bought any new gear in almost 8 months. The hobby stops being expensive once you find stuff you like and sit on it for a long time heh.

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Chris, thanks again. Once again very balanced opinions.

I see you have many AGD products. I don't know if you have used HE -500 to give me a an opinion of how they may sound off AGD ES9018 solution?

I don't see myself doing much upgrades frequently.
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Chris, thanks again. Once again very balanced opinions.

I see you have many AGD products. I don't know if you have used HE -500 to give me a an opinion of how they may sound off AGD ES9018 solution?

I don't see myself doing much upgrades frequently.

 

PM me. I don't want to clog the thread with back and forth unless everybody else is dying to know LOL.

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A well executed amp shouldn't really receive praise, it's like telling the shovel "good job for digging holes" IMO. The happiest audiophiles usually are the ones who don't post and thats how I was feeling for a while actually. I haven't bought any new gear in almost 8 months. The hobby stops being expensive once you find stuff you like and sit on it for a long time heh.


I chuckle at the shills that preach for every new release and claim it's profound influence. Often times before it's ever heard. The wise hobbyist learns how to ignore the noise and choose equipment to provide pleasure without fear of obsolescence. Amps are one of those new and improved things that haven't changed in decades. A new case, a couple filters and ta-da, a breakthrough. A cable, new sheathing, a proprietary metal mix and stunning results. rolleyes.gif
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Yeah they're fairly neutral. It's really difficult given there are like a thousand amps out there and we don't have a baseline for what "neutral" is.

 

We do!  It's your ears and your preference.  :p

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We do!  It's your ears and your preference.  :p

 

Yeah MY ears and preference right? :)

 

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I chuckle at the shills that preach for every new release and claim it's profound influence. Often times before it's ever heard. The wise hobbyist learns how to ignore the noise and choose equipment to provide pleasure without fear of obsolescence. Amps are one of those new and improved things that haven't changed in decades. A new case, a couple filters and ta-da, a breakthrough. A cable, new sheathing, a proprietary metal mix and stunning results. rolleyes.gif

 

Pretty much. I play guitar and regardless of the latest and greatest solid state amp, some 1980's Marshall tube amps still sound the best really.. like it's not even that debateable :)

 

These days though presentation, marketing, and ease is what I look for actually. Yes, I need the company to deliver a solid product, but more or less they're selling luxury goods, and I'd like sort of the same sensations to  be associated with them. Schiit has the tiered purchase system so everybody can get in but would like to get in at the highest level possible to "save money", a solid product, a fantastic brand image, and a simple to understand product description as well as the notion that they've "done all the work for you" making it feel like you don't need to second guess what you have regardless of how it stands vs Chinese produced amps. Luxury.

Haha don't start with me and cables!

 

I think the Lyr is probably one of the better purchases you can make as an HE-5LE, HE-6, or HE-500 owner.

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Yeah MY ears and preference right? :)

 

 

Pretty much. I play guitar and regardless of the latest and greatest solid state amp, some 1980's Marshall tube amps still sound the best really.. like it's not even that debateable :)

 

 

Danggg, that's something I didn't know about you.  Bring your guitar over sometimes.  We'll have a jam session.  Record it and use it as our reference track so we can say "I know exactly how it's supposed to sound" in a legit way. :p  I've been through those days spending $$$$ on guitar head amps.  

And for tube, go with Lyr for HE500, even HE-6(might be pushing a little here).  For solid, go for Mini-X.  Both are best bang for the buck, anyway you look at it.


Edited by koiloco - 11/7/13 at 10:32pm
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Danggg, that's something I didn't know about you.  Bring your guitar over sometimes.  We'll have a jam session.  Record it and use it as our reference track so we can say "I know exactly how it's supposed to sound" in a legit way. :p  I've been through those days spending $$$$ on guitar head amps.  

And for tube, go with Lyr for HE500, even HE-6(might be pushing a little here).  For solid, go for Mini-X.  Both are best bang for the buck, anyway you look at it.

 

Crate Blue Voodoo series sorta replaced my Marshall amps but thats because it's cheaper. I was just making a point lawl :)

 

I play ESP and Ibanez (Japanese)

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Crate Blue Voodoo series sorta replaced my Marshall amps but thats because it's cheaper. I was just making a point lawl :)

 

I play ESP and Ibanez (Japanese)


Ibanez has always been my favorite brand.

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I haven't been listening to my HE500s for a few weeks due to some new purchases with some IEMS and the HD600s to see what the fuss about. Although I did some ABing to realise the two cans are a different species, I purposely put my HE500s away to give the HD600s a good chance to burn in mentally. I found that the HD600s really grew on me, I started to enjoy them a lot and know now why people like them so much. I found I cannot let them go now even after I found some graininess in comparison to the HE500s.

 

But, I just now put on the HE500s after the lengthy hiatus and I was floored by how great they sound. They are on another level compared to the HD600s. I was left speechless and I thought oh my god, these cans are so good. It was a similar experience to when I first heard them. I think I really got used to the HE500s sound after a while since I bought them and started taking them for granted. I will never doubt them again.

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That's the he500 magic. I m exclusively on hd800 for couple weeks. I will see if I would have the same impression as u did.
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Oh my. James Newton Howard's "The Village" score is simply...breathtaking...on the HE-500's.

 

Like, it's been a long time since I've been this engaged in a score. These headphones have pushed the limits for me of what can be acheived in a "next in line for flagship" headphone.


Edited by Austin Morrow - 11/8/13 at 10:06pm
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I haven't been listening to my HE500s for a few weeks due to some new purchases with some IEMS and the HD600s to see what the fuss about. Although I did some ABing to realise the two cans are a different species, I purposely put my HE500s away to give the HD600s a good chance to burn in mentally. I found that the HD600s really grew on me, I started to enjoy them a lot and know now why people like them so much. I found I cannot let them go now even after I found some graininess in comparison to the HE500s.

 

But, I just now put on the HE500s after the lengthy hiatus and I was floored by how great they sound. They are on another level compared to the HD600s. I was left speechless and I thought oh my god, these cans are so good. It was a similar experience to when I first heard them. I think I really got used to the HE500s sound after a while since I bought them and started taking them for granted. I will never doubt them again.

 

I found the same with the Sennheiser HD580. I also got the HD580s after I already had the HE-500 and it is a headphone that grows on you. It really is a great headphone and more neutral sounding, but there is definitely noticeable graininess in the sound. Reckon everyone should listen to the HD600 at some stage in their head-fi journey to realise how forward and bass heavy most gear sounds today. Going back to the HE-500 always produced a wow factor though. I eventually sold my pair to somebody who was starting out on his head-fi journey along with a JDS Labs cmoy amp. The Westone 4 is another example of a IEM that doesn't really produce a wow factor, but with more and more listening you realise how impressive they are.

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