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Has anyone tried the HE500 from a NAD amp such as the 326bee?

 

I am interested if it would work... Obviously it will work from the headphone jack but I mean from the speaker taps...

 

This amp I have (326bee) has 2 sets of speaker posts.... I was thinking I could have one connected to speakers and one to HE500 and use the switch on the front to switch between input A / B...

 

This would mean an upgrade to HE500 would cost me the price of a HE500 + a modded cable, as opposed to HE500 + headphone amp.


Edited by nicholars - 10/12/13 at 5:49am
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My Yamaha RX-A3010 also sounds a bit noisy with the Emotiva. I don't think the quality of AVR amplifiers are all that good especially on recent models. Too many gimmicks and licensing fees that needs to be paid before there is money available for amplifiers... 

 

The pre-amps on most AVRs are quite decent quality and listening through the Myryad MXA 5150 connected to the RX-A3010 on the HE-500s is quite an experience. It is a multichannel power amplifier with 5 x 150W mono block modules. I just made very sure the volume was all the way down before I connected it! 

 

The Emotiva does come very close and considering the substantial difference in price I don't think there is anything that can touch the Mini-X below $700. Just find a nice DAC for it and I don't think you ever have to look at another amplifier for your HE-500s again. I'd rather spend the money of the HE-6 or whatever flagship Hifiman comes up with in the future. I'm also looking very forward to the launch of the Audeze LCD X!

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Why no love for Audio GD. Their Amp/DAC combo seem to have very good specs and very attractive price point compared to the mid-fi players. I have not used their products, merely asking opinions... I do like to know how they sound with the HE-500
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Why no love for Audio GD. Their Amp/DAC combo seem to have very good specs and very attractive price point compared to the mid-fi players. I have not used their products, merely asking opinions... I do like to know how they sound with the HE-500
I agree..audio gd makes good stuff for the money they ask for it.. Especially their more higher end stuff...
post #8465 of 15273

I didn't like the Audio-GD NFB 11.32 with the HE-500 for some reason. I actually prefer my Lepai setup to it.

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I didn't like the Audio-GD NFB 11.32 with the HE-500 for some reason. I actually prefer my Lepai setup to it.
Thats there lowest cost headphone amp they have if i am not mistaken and on top of that they included a dac!.all budget components inside.... Ofcourse they are not made to drive a difficult to drive headphone like a he500....Get one of their master series...yes they are a bit more expensive...but for the money they still offer excellent value for money... tongue.gif
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The amp section of the 11.32 is still pumping about 2.5 W of power into HE500's 38 Ohm, there is plenty of power. It's a bit cold-sounding though, which is alright with me but might tick some off.

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Originally Posted by VTV View Post

Why no love for Audio GD. Their Amp/DAC combo seem to have very good specs and very attractive price point compared to the mid-fi players. I have not used their products, merely asking opinions... I do like to know how they sound with the HE-500

My SA-31 is very good with the HE-500, tight bass and fantastic sound stage.

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The 15.32 sounds great, it gives the little bit of of warmth over the 11.32s
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Why doesn't anyone have a NAD amp...

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I'm extremely happy with how the Audio-gd NFB 6 sounds with my HE-500 running balanced from the Audiolab 8200 CD player.  5.92 watts of very detailed, very neutral sound makes it unforgiving with less than perfect recordings but that's what I prefer since I don't listen  to the kinds of music which get poorly recorded.

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I don't listen  to the kinds of music which get poorly recorded.

I am completely unable to do this

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Thats there lowest cost headphone amp they have if i am not mistaken and on top of that they included a dac!.all budget components inside.... Ofcourse they are not made to drive a difficult to drive headphone like a he500....Get one of their master series...yes they are a bit more expensive...but for the money they still offer excellent value for money... tongue.gif

 

The amp actually had plenty of power, and it used the ESS9018. Like Jerg said though, its a little too cold and bright, not even neutral really. The HE-500 will only get better once my new Jergpads come in from modulator.

 

Speaker amp / DAC or bust for the HE-500. It opens up a whole new level of performance that a 1000mw amp just can't give. 

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The amp actually had plenty of power, and it used the ESS9018. Like Jerg said though, its a little too cold and bright, not even neutral really. The HE-500 will only get better once my new Jergpads come in from modulator.

Speaker amp / DAC or bust for the HE-500. It opens up a whole new level of performance that a 1000mw amp just can't give. 
I meant the soundsignature of that amp... But as u can see audio GD amps do sound good on a he500..i told ya! biggrin.gif

About ur statement about speaker amp or bust..well..i think a few decware, woo audio, bakoon, burson, darkvoice, lafigaro, blue circle audio and lots more owners of other premium brands of headphone amps can tell ya: speaker route is not the only way.

First: Its the least easy way (caution with connection to speaker units!) and
Secondly: u have to strip cable (or buy dedicated cables) to connect..

only possible advantage over those premium (most of them expensive) headphone amps is that they are cheaper by a huge margin in what they deliver in watts...

Am not saying they are worse, but for 2000usd u get a whole lot of headphone amping.

A 2000usd worth of speakeramp wont be better with a he500 (with the he6 situation could be different) maybe only stronger (more bass??)

The he500 doesnt need huge amount of watts. what he does need is control and quality of sound and in so components to deliver that and that costs money, sometimes lots of money.

but as one smart person on headfi said: at a certain price point its not about quality of sound anymore..its about design and reputation.. (Sometimes over quality of sound!!!!!!!)

At that point i say: stop..no further..but hey..if i was rich i would say..give me 2 of them (a black and silver)..wrap them up and put them on the passengers seat in my bugatti veyron up front biggrin.gif
Edited by hifimanrookie - 10/12/13 at 6:18pm
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I meant the soundsignature of that amp... But as u can see audio GD amps do sound good on a he500..i told ya! biggrin.gif

About ur statement about speaker amp or bust..well..i think a few decware, woo audio, bakoon, burson, darkvoice, lafigaro, blue circle audio and lots more owners of other premium brands of headphone amps can tell ya: speaker route is not the only way.

First: Its the least easy way (caution with connection to speaker units!) and
Secondly: u have to strip cable (or buy dedicated cables) to connect..

only possible advantage over those premium (most of them expensive) headphone amps is that they are cheaper by a huge margin in what they deliver in watts...

Am not saying they are worse, but for 2000usd u get a whole lot of headphone amping.

A 2000usd worth of speakeramp wont be better with a he500 (with the he6 situation could be different) maybe only stronger (more bass??)

The he500 doesnt need huge amount of watts. what he does need is control and quality of sound and in so components to deliver that and that costs money, sometimes lots of money.

but as one smart person on headfi said: at a certain price point its not about quality of sound anymore..its about design and reputation..

At that point i say: stop..no further..but hey..if i was rich i would say..give me 2 of them (a black and silver)..wrap them up and put them on the passengers seat in my bugatti veyron up front biggrin.gif

$2,000?

 

I'm running my HE-500 off a $20 Lepai 2020a+, and it is leaps and bounds better than any headphone amp I've tried under $1,000. $20 is extremely cheap.

 

It is actually better than the $129 200W Lepai amp I have. I can't get that to work with the HE-500 yet, despite the stronger than Emotiva Mini-X power.

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