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Originally Posted by kothganesh View Post


For me, the short answer is yes. I listen to rock and no other genre. The 2.2 moves me like no other headphone except the LCD 3.
Here's a point to ponder though. I would recommend you try the 500 with the jergpads by modulor. That's what I have and use them with the Mojo. It was quite a revelation for me since everything opened up on the 500 after the pads. I can go non-stop for 3 hours to have a great musical experience.

 

Your preference must click perfectly with Audeze cuz in my case, it's the exact opposite even though, I don't listen to rock exclusively.  Audeze sound signature just doesn't move me.  We are indeed wired so differently.  :D 

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Your preference must click perfectly with Audeze cuz in my case, it's the exact opposite even though, I don't listen to rock exclusively.  Audeze sound signature just doesn't move me.  We are indeed wired so differently.  :D 

Indeed ! Now don't get me wrong. I do like the HE 500 very, very much. When I need to mellow out a bit (although I"m not sure about mellowing out with rock :wink:), the HE 500 are my go-to HPs. The jergpads by modulor have made that much of a difference. FWIW, I used to listen to the 500 only through my Soloist and one day, I said what the heck and switched over to the Mojo. That's made a heck of a difference too.

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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post
 

 

try pleathers if the velours are a little bright.

 

anyways, u should of seen my first posts when i got HE-500, i thought i was gonna return them. they where very bright and the mids where sucked out. but out of all my headphones, burn-in was very noticeable on the hifimans. the treble will smoothen out soon and there shouldn't be any sibilance.

 

Thanks, yes I have to hear them with the pleathers...

 

I do not know if burn in actually happens, but the booklet inside advised 150 hours of burn in. Let's see.

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+1 and I wanna mention that I also couldn't stand the sibilant highs of the HE-500's with the stock 6BZ7 tubes in the Lyr, but it really tamed the highs with different tubes making the sound overall warmer and more laid back. The HE500 seems to sound quite dramatically different with different Amp/Source's signature. 

 

Thanks, yes toying with the amp decision now. Hopefully a combination of change to pleather, burn-in and the amp can make a difference.

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Hey mate

 

Are you using MultiEQ? Try turning 'Dynamic EQ' off as per this review here: http://www.avhub.com.au/index.php/Product-Reviews/Sound+Image/networked-av-receiver/Page-3.html (read and check conclusions). 

 

As for amp/dac - perhaps see if you can borrow a simple amp/dac combo for a quick comparison. Shouldn't think the decoders on the receiver are affecting you if the Focals sound great to you but a 2channel DAC/AMP may be worth a try. Are you using the headphone out on the receiver or speaker jacks? Is there much volume control?

 

 

nk77

 

Thanks. No I am not using any EQ, unless of course it is activated by Audyssey calibration. I am using the built in headphone jack of the receiver. The volume control works for the headphone too..

 

I do not have the option to borrow an AMP/DAC, but may be I can take it to the local shop where they have Shiit Lyr and Sennheiser amps. I can't carry my sources though because I feel they will be having stereo setup.

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Thanks, yes toying with the amp decision now. Hopefully a combination of change to pleather, burn-in and the amp can make a difference.
Or try..as some already mentioned, the jergmod... Its best of both worlds..
post #8287 of 14527
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Thanks. No I am not using any EQ, unless of course it is activated by Audyssey calibration. 

 

I believe Dynamic EQ function is enabled when you use Audyssey MultiEQ. So you have to manually disable that. I think Marantz have the same thing (the EQ thing with their MultiEQ).

 

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I am using the built in headphone jack of the receiver. The volume control works for the headphone too..

 

By volume control - I mean is there much room for movement in terms of loudness? Does it take one click on the volume knob to go from barely audible to extremely loud?

 

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Originally Posted by VTV View Post
 

 

I do not have the option to borrow an AMP/DAC, but may be I can take it to the local shop where they have Shiit Lyr and Sennheiser amps. I can't carry my sources though because I feel they will be having stereo setup.

 

If you have a local shop they should have a standalone DAC or CD player etc all set up for you. That Denon looks massive - I would hate to have to unplug and carry to your local store. But I guess it would help your comparisons...

 

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I happened to stumble upon this: http://www.ttvjaudio.com/HiFiMan_HE_6_and_Sophia_Baby_Amplifier_Combo_p/ttvjpkg007.htm

 

Would that also work with the HE-500?

 

Also I started digging into speaker amps with headphones, and while SS speaker amps would work fine, it seems the higher ohmage of headphones could damage the transformers of tube speaker amps, so I wonder how that advertised pairing would work.

 

Anyways, if anyone has any insight on that combo or if the Sophia Baby Amp works with the HE-500, it'd be much appreciated. Thanks. :)

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Originally Posted by Sonido View Post
 

I happened to stumble upon this: http://www.ttvjaudio.com/HiFiMan_HE_6_and_Sophia_Baby_Amplifier_Combo_p/ttvjpkg007.htm

 

Would that also work with the HE-500?

 

Also I started digging into speaker amps with headphones, and while SS speaker amps would work fine, it seems the higher ohmage of headphones could damage the transformers of tube speaker amps, so I wonder how that advertised pairing would work.

 

Anyways, if anyone has any insight on that combo or if the Sophia Baby Amp works with the HE-500, it'd be much appreciated. Thanks. :)

 

curious as well. i know its sold with HE-6 there but i dont think it would be optimal.

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Originally Posted by nk77 View Post
 
I believe Dynamic EQ function is enabled when you use Audyssey MultiEQ. So you have to manually disable that. I think Marantz have the same thing (the EQ thing with their MultiEQ).

 

Thanks nk77. No Dynamic EQ is certainly off, multi EQ, I need to check.

 

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Originally Posted by nk77 View Post
 

By volume control - I mean is there much room for movement in terms of loudness? Does it take one click on the volume knob to go from barely audible to extremely loud?

 

No, no it does not go to crazy volume in one turn. Normally on the speakers I get good volume between -32dB to -25dB (0dB be being the maximum). On the Hifiman, I need to sometime go up -20 to 10dB levels on the volume display before it become high volume. . 

 

 

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Originally Posted by nk77 View Post
 

If you have a local shop they should have a standalone DAC or CD player etc all set up for you. That Denon looks massive - I would hate to have to unplug and carry to your local store. But I guess it would help your comparisons...

 

No way I am going to carry those Denon over there :)

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Bass.....The bass is not going to touch the 12" SVS woofer. I was not expecting it either. There is something to the visceral feeling of the bass from woofer compared to the honest imitations from a headphone. Unrealistic expectations, really. Subjectively, the mid bass has the slam that I have not heard in other headphones. So realistically speaking these phones make the bass sound, but they cannot do the bass feel the woofers are capable of. Again no one expects them to, right? LFE channel is going to show any headphone is poor light. I accept it. Still as the listening sessions progressed, I am amazed by the bass. The Focal sans the woofer might still still trump the HE-500 for bass, but HE-500 looks quite capable and has better separation and is more resolving. 

 

The treble...well these seems sibilant than the speakers on source bordering on sibilant. Often harshly so. Need to see how they fare with a matching amp. The Focal themselves get the tag or being bright, but their brightness is something I have come to accept and enjoy. They make some really nice tweeters. These cans perhaps need a warm amp. 

 

 

The harsh treble goes away somewhere between 150-200 hours. Probably closer to 200, it smooths out and sounds great. 

 

I've noticed the bass gets better too with break in. Not as big of a difference as the highs though, but it does seem to produce a little more bass after break in.

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Originally Posted by johnp9723 View Post
 

The harsh treble goes away somewhere between 150-200 hours. Probably closer to 200, it smooths out and sounds great. 

 

I've noticed the bass gets better too with break in. Not as big of a difference as the highs though, but it does seem to produce a little more bass after break in.

 

Thanks, let me check. I have marked the tracks where I get the sibilance and I will remember the volume levels and see if I can replicate it later on.

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Originally Posted by VTV View Post
 

Bass.....The bass is not going to touch the 12" SVS woofer. I was not expecting it either. There is something to the visceral feeling of the bass from woofer compared to the honest imitations from a headphone. Unrealistic expectations, really. Subjectively, the mid bass has the slam that I have not heard in other headphones. So realistically speaking these phones make the bass sound, but they cannot do the bass feel the woofers are capable of. Again no one expects them to, right? LFE channel is going to show any headphone is poor light. I accept it. Still as the listening sessions progressed, I am amazed by the bass. The Focal sans the woofer might still still trump the HE-500 for bass, but HE-500 looks quite capable and has better separation and is more resolving. 

 

Ok, some correction is in order. I have to say that the bass is excellent for a headphone. Today watched some movies that literally rocks the room with room shattering bass. The HE-500 does bass admirably. Yes, these cannot push as much air as a woofer does and thus the visceral feeling is missing, but for a quite evening watching some LFE heavy movies, HE-500 is going to convey the impact without waking up the family. I feel the quality and tightness of the bass is excellent too...

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That denon receiver's headphone out is most likely pretty bad.
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On what basis do you make that assumption?

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