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No sir the NFB 10SE2 has Ecc Sabre 9018s 
32bit / 192K Sabre ES9018
Straight from KingWa's site
+1 i agree

http://www.audio-gd.com/Pro/Headphoneamp/NFB10ES/NFB10ES2EN.htm

Thats standard..but if i am not mistaken i read somewhere people stating u can ask audio gd to change the dac chip to something else they have...but as i just said..maybe i remember it wrongly.. In that case..my apologies.
Edited by hifimanrookie - 9/24/13 at 1:27pm
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+1 i agree

http://www.audio-gd.com/Pro/Headphoneamp/NFB10ES/NFB10ES2EN.htm

 

pretty much, the 10.33 has a Wolfson I think 

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Frank was exchanging messages with me this past weekend about whether I would like sleeving or not on my headphone cable. This was sent in the very early hours of Sunday morning and I was still receiving responses from him later that morning as well. He obviously doesn't sleep and works on weekends! :p From our correspondence it's also obvious that he doing a lot of R&D and tinkering with new cables, I'm receiving some updates on mine which is awesome!

 

Personally I think his prices are very reasonable compared to prices I have seen so far from other stores, also compare the prices to those of the stock HE-6 cable. I am still very much in the sceptical camp when it comes to sonic improvements in headphone cables (this is actually the first after market cable that I have purchased), but I liked the look and build quality I've seen from the photos so that alone for me is worth the price of admission. I am trusting Frank's judgement on going with the Silver Poison though as I've had silver QED speaker cables in the past that I didn't like at all, so I'm a bit wary of silver cables, but Frank definitely reckons the sonic improvements will be worthwhile.

 

I kind of wished my stock HE-500 copper would have rusted many months ago so I could have an excuse to buy a new cable! Unfortunately I live 1500m above sea level and about 600km from the coast so rust is the least of my worries here! My cable still looks the same as the day I got it, shoddy construction and all... :D 


Edited by daerron - 9/24/13 at 1:31pm
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Frank was exchanging messages with me this past weekend about whether I would like sleeving or not on my headphone cable. This was sent in the very early hours of Sunday morning and I was still receiving responses from him later that morning as well. He obviously doesn't sleep and works on weekends! :p From our correspondence it's also obvious that he doing a lot of R&D and tinkering with new cables, with my patient waiting, I'm actually getting some of those updates on my cable!

 

Personally I think his prices are very reasonable compared to prices I have seen so far from other stores, also compare the prices to those of the stock HE-6 cable. I am still very much in the sceptical camp when it comes to sonic improvements in headphone cables (this is actually the first after market cable that I have purchased), but I liked the look and build quality I've seen from the photos so that alone for me is worth the price of admission. I am trusting Frank's judgement on going with the Silver Poison though as I've had silver QED speaker cables in the past that I didn't like at all, so I'm a bit wary of silver cables.

 

I kind of wished my stock HE-500 copper would have rusted many months ago so I could have an excuse to buy a new cable! Unfortunately I live 1500m above sea level and about 600km from the coast so rust is the least of my worries here! My cable still looks the same as the day I got it, shoddy construction and all... :D 

 

yea... good to hear about poor cable builds. I may order one from him soon enough, HEY guys. That website is hard to read q.q I got all confuzzled and mis read something ;3  


Edited by Mshenay - 9/24/13 at 4:00pm
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... and yea I'm SURE the VI+ can drive a 600 ohm can correct? I mean it would have to... it's a full OTL tube with balanced out

 

ACtually I'll let you know today what I hear from my own DT 880

 

And I can second that, I had a DB1 PB1 combo, and I got to listen to my Dt 880 through it, while the DB1 is not an EPIC Dac... it was a tad bit better seperated than my oDac.

 

So I think balanced does improve clarity and imaging. But it being brighter... may be due to the Eccc 9018 Dac in the 10SE, still. I'll let you guys know what I think today :D

 

The 10SE has Wolfson dac chips

 

This is correct

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Most AudioPhiles who turn Cable Builders are pretty cheap, because they are still audioPhiles and not welathy buisness men [looking at u toxic cables] as Zombie has told me, there's NO reason to charge THAT much for a cable... outside of the "brand" so yea let's support out local small buisness cable makers biggrin.gif 
 
Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

 

yea... good to hear about poor cable builds. I may order one from him soon enough, he may be wiling as well to explain why it there is such a big up charge for sleeveing. 

 

Sorry, never realized £5/$7.50 for sleeving was considered too much. The extra £5 i charge for sleeving does not even cover my own costs. With the Silver Poison sleeved cable, you are getting a copper braided shielding and soft nylon sleeving, these two alone cost me more then £5, then you have a custom made aluminium splitter which again costs more then £5. So the parts alone cost more then what i charge for sleeving and that does not even take in to account the extra 20 minutes or so it takes to shield and sleeve the cable.

 

As for your previous comment on cable prices, you might want to compare prices of cables made with similar materials, not Silver to SPC. I think you might then find that my cables are cheaper then most, especially when you consider that i use premium materials plugs as standards even in my £85 cable, whereas some charge you $25 extra to have that same plug.

 

Also, just because i run a business, does not mean that i am no longer an audiophile. I am in this business because i am one and i love what i do.

 

I usually don't get involved in these discussions or follow many threads here, but felt this needed a reply.


Edited by Toxic Cables - 9/24/13 at 4:17pm
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Sorry, never realized £5/$7.50 for sleeving was considered too much. The extra £5 i charge for sleeving does not even cover my own costs. With the Silver Poison sleeved cable, you are getting a copper braided shielding and soft nylon sleeving along with a custom aluminium splitter. The splitter alone costs me more then £5. Not forgetting the extra 20 minutes it takes to shield and sleeve the cable.

 

? maybe I'm looking at something wrong lol Oh :3 foot in my mouth again it seems... ofc I read the prices wrong. Saw  "Silver" "sleeved" "E180" then saw "Silver" "unsleeved" "e95"

 

the point being they are different cables, the SIlver posion is pure silver. where as the less expensive one is silver copper hybrid. I didn't read it correctly... shame on me q.q 

 

STILL thank you for the apperance. Don't mind me I get my foot stuck in my mouth pretty often 

 

That said it would be nice if the web site had under the hifiman cables an option for sleeved and unsleeved cables advertised, as to a super duper PAGE skimmer, just reading for key words. lead me to assume the Silver Posion and Cryo where the same cable [my mistake obviously ] still just a thought! 

 

ehm that said, nice prices :3


Edited by Mshenay - 9/24/13 at 4:02pm
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Ehm moving on, the Audio GD 10ES2 is in. The SE out sounds a lot like my m Stage q.q I'll a/b it here in a second

 

although the balanced out has better instrument seperation and and clarity overall! :D 

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Sorry, never realized £5/$7.50 for sleeving was considered too much. The extra £5 i charge for sleeving does not even cover my own costs. With the Silver Poison sleeved cable, you are getting a copper braided shielding and soft nylon sleeving along with a custom aluminium splitter. The splitter alone costs me more then £5. Not forgetting the extra 20 minutes it takes to shield and sleeve the cable.

As for your previous comment on cable prices, you might want to compare prices of cables made with similar materials, not Silver to SPC. I think you might then find that my cables are cheaper then most.

Mmmmmm...now this is surprising..oops..kidding..i knew this! biggrin.gif

But...He already said he had mistaken ur prices with another brand...right mshenay?

So This can also be put under same category as the one when u before accidentely said toxic cables prices are outrageous?

So imho toxic cables didnt even need to post this as mshenay knows this also already and he is just confusing the cables of toxic with some other brand...RIGHT? So its best to post opinions if ur sure of what u wanna post..as it could damage the good name of a brand otherwise....imho opinion ofcourse..but then again..everyone is allowed to their own opinion..even if it COULD be wrong...

Edit..just read ur foot..oops reply on that post.. Nevermind this post then biggrin.gif
Edited by hifimanrookie - 9/24/13 at 4:09pm
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Mmmmmm...now this is surprising..oops..kidding..i knew this! biggrin.gif

But...He already said he had mistaken ur prices with another brand...right mshenay?

So This can also be put under same category as the one when u before accidentely said toxic cables prices are outrageous?

So imho toxic cables didnt even need to post this as mshenay knows this also already and he is just confusing the cables of toxic with some other brand...RIGHT? So its best to post opinions if ur sure of what u wanna post..as it could damage the good name of a brand otherwise....imho opinion ofcourse..but then again..everyone is allowed to their own opinion..even if it COULD be wrong...

Edit..just read ur foot..oops reply on that post.. Nevermind this post then biggrin.gif

 

we know I'm 100% impaitent and look for absouletly KEY WORD only. I miss a lot of details that way ALTHOUGH I will say this. Started playing a VERY text heavy RPG today, and I am reading EVERY SINGLE WORD of it. Very enjoyable! But for technical stuff less is more imo 

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? maybe I'm looking at something wrong lol Oh :3 foot in my mouth again it seems... ofc I read the prices wrong. Saw  "Silver" "sleeved" "E180" then saw "Silver" "unsleeved" "e95"

 

the point being they are different cables, the SIlver posion is pure silver. where as the less expensive one is silver copper hybrid. I didn't read it correctly... shame on me q.q 

 

STILL thank you for the apperance. Don't mind me I get my foot stuck in my mouth pretty often 

 

That said it would be nice if the web site had under the hifiman cables an option for sleeved and unsleeved cables advertised, as to a super duper PAGE skimmer, just reading for key words. lead me to assume the Silver Posion and Cryo where the same cable [my mistake obviously ] still just a thought! 

 

ehm that said, nice prices :3

No problem, thank you.

 

My site is cr@p, i have been so busy that i have kept putting off updating it for over a year now. The title of the cables should make clear what is that though, as one says silver, while the other says silver/copper.  Best option is to email or PM me for placing orders or further info, but please do note that replies can take some time. My profile also has a more upto date list of the cables i currently offer.

 

Do note that the pictures on the site are also very outdated. I have made various small changed that make the cables look much better now.

 

Here are some pics i took over 6 months ago, does not include any of my newer cables.

 

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Mmmmmm...now this is surprising..oops..kidding..i knew this! biggrin.gif

But...He already said he had mistaken ur prices with another brand...right mshenay?

So This can also be put under same category as the one when u before accidentely said toxic cables prices are outrageous?

So imho toxic cables didnt even need to post this as mshenay knows this also already and he is just confusing the cables of toxic with some other brand...RIGHT? So its best to post opinions if ur sure of what u wanna post..as it could damage the good name of a brand otherwise....imho opinion ofcourse..but then again..everyone is allowed to their own opinion..even if it COULD be wrong...

Edit..just read ur foot..oops reply on that post.. Nevermind this post then biggrin.gif

 

Yes, i saw his earlier post,, but my post was mostly in reply to the sleeving costing so much more.

 
I realized that he must have been comparing my Silver Cable prices to someone else's SPC cable price, which i why i suggested checking what metals the cables are made of. You see it on here too often when people compare the price of cables. One just compares the prices and forgets the fact that the material used on the other costs 10 times as much.
 
As i said many times before, i launched Toxic with a goal of providing high quality cables at reasonable prices, prices that i would be happy paying myself.
 
Frank out. 
 
On a side note, i am an authorized Hifiman dealer, so if anyone in the EU is looking for a pair of HE-500, give me a shout and we can include a free upgrade cable with a pair.

 

Can do some great deals on Audio-GD gear also, all internally wired at the factory with my own OCC wire.

 

Might as well do a little advertising :biggrin: 


Edited by Toxic Cables - 9/24/13 at 9:30pm
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No sir the NFB 10SE2 has Ecc Sabre 9018s

32bit / 192K Sabre ES9018
Straight from KingWa's site

You assume that SE = ES in Audio gd, which does not apply. .

There was never an NFB-10SE2.

And the NFB-10SE had Wolfson chips. You may check many postings in this thread from 2 years ago. Also:http://www.head-fi.org/t/681247/free-amp-giveaway-with-conditions-audio-gd-nfb-10se

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Anyway, great thread lads, will do some reading later tonight. Can't remember the last time i had a chance to use my 500's. Will hopefully get them back out soon, when i have a chance to actually use them.

Edited by Toxic Cables - 9/24/13 at 5:00pm
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And mr....what ru still doing here? Advertising huh? Ru serious! Bad boy! Ur almost acting like a normal human being now..not like a precision ultimate cable making machine wink.gif i want the other fanatical precise building cables guy back.....not a guy who actually is nice and shows real interest for others here on this thread... Where did u put him??? biggrin.gif and its a shame u openly admit u didnt listen to ur he500 for so long u cant remember...OMG... Like ur kid u have to make time to listen to it...seriously..i am so disapointed in u as a person tongue.gif

but i have to admit..the quality products ur agent for are worth it!! Damn u see..even i am now forced to do some advertisement...and thats not fair!! As Am not getting paid for that biggrin.gif

But now u had ur talk..go back to ur corner mr. Toxic....to ur toxic thread and ur beloved cables...where u belong... biggrin.gif

Oopsie..does this post mean that my next cable will have a 3year waiting time now? wink.gif

But seriously.. I admire this dude deeply! Have been dealing with huge amount of suppliers from small to big enterprises for the most various of commodities for around 20 years now for a living..and people who try to do business like him (and survive) are of a very rare breed.. Hope he will stay the same in the proces he is in of extreme growth because of his new/loyal customers.... And that he can overcome the naturally arising challenges that arises because of such a growth.... And now i really want hard cash!!! biggrin.gif
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? maybe I'm looking at something wrong lol Oh :3 foot in my mouth again it seems... ofc I read the prices wrong. Saw  "Silver" "sleeved" "E180" then saw "Silver" "unsleeved" "e95"
Dear sir I really think you should think before you talk or type or else you could give someone else business' real damage. And you just can't say " ow I've mistaken your cable's for somebody's cable" and just get away with it. Imagine if some of the readers just read your comment and move on to another thread without reading the correction of your comment. I don't know Frank or use his Toxic Cable but if I would't make comments if I was't 100% sure about Toxic Cable's is a rip off.

the point being they are different cables, the SIlver posion is pure silver. where as the less expensive one is silver copper hybrid. I didn't read it correctly... shame on me q.q 

STILL thank you for the apperance. Don't mind me I get my foot stuck in my mouth pretty often 

That said it would be nice if the web site had under the hifiman cables an option for sleeved and unsleeved cables advertised, as to a super duper PAGE skimmer, just reading for key words. lead me to assume the Silver Posion and Cryo where the same cable [my mistake obviously ] still just a thought! 

ehm that said, nice prices :3
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