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I'll take ambiguous words audiophiles use for 400  :p

 

I'll 7N silver cables for 700

post #7937 of 18011
T1 needs tube amp for treble, then its very smooth, also depends if you got a good or bad pair of T1s. also the T1s are anything but slow, they're quite fast.
post #7938 of 18011
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post
 

 

Bleh Tubes... I need one of those eventually >.> Although I like my DT 880 with Solid State honestly 

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Valves keep you cozy at night

 

 

But I do like my two Dt990s best with solid state too.

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Valves keep you cozy at night

 

 

But I do like my two Dt990s best with solid state too.

 

AGree'd I honestly like the DT 880 mids out of a lean warm Solid State, I'm hoping my Audio GD 10ES2 Balanced will add a little darker sound to the DT 880 [it will still be bright ofc but the dark nature of the AUdio GD should be a great combo] not to mention the balancing should give me a little more sound stage! 

 
But I am still hoping the HE 400 will be able to replace the Dt 990 >.> 
post #7941 of 18011
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post
 

New topic of this thread.  Please define "wooly" in your understanding/words regarding audio.  :p

 

 

Woolly (not "wooly") means what it says: resembling wool--i.e. loose and fluffy. It can't mean anything else even in audio. So woolly bass is the opposite of tight.

 

The dictionary adds:  "Lacking sharp detail or clarity".

 

Get it? Got it? Good.  :D


Edited by pp312 - 9/17/13 at 6:42pm
post #7942 of 18011
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

 

AGree'd I honestly like the DT 880 mids out of a lean warm Solid State,

 

I'm not sure that isn't a contradiction in terms. Lean and warm? Hmm.

 

Personally I've found Marantz stuff matches best with the DT880. My old SR4200 HT receiver sounds great with the 880 Pro, but the SR4023 stereo receiver is an even better match and hardly needs any treble attenuation; with most recordings I listen flat. With other amps I've had, like the Cambridge Audio 340A and NAD 326BEE, I've had to use -4db treble.

post #7943 of 18011
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Originally Posted by pp312 View Post
 

 

I'm not sure that isn't a contradiction in terms. Lean and warm? Hmm.

 

Personally I've found Marantz stuff matches best with the DT880. My old SR4200 HT receiver sounds great with the 880 Pro, but the SR4023 stereo receiver is an even better match and hardly needs any treble attenuation; with most recordings I listen flat. With other amps I've had, like the Cambridge Audio 340A and NAD 326BEE, I've had to use -4db treble.

 

I know right, warm is bloated bass in my book so a LEAN warm is anything with slighty accented bass. Lean think of a good Prime Choice Flank Steak, it is VERY lean but the Prime cuts have some marbling, so it's lean yet it has some fat to it, that's what I'm aiming at here with the Lean warm amp, where as as warm amp is like a Chuck Roast steak, a LOT more fat

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What exactly does "wooly" mean? Like bloated?

post #7945 of 18011
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Originally Posted by pp312 View Post


Woolly (not "wooly") means what it says: resembling wool--i.e. loose and fluffy. It can't mean anything else even in audio. So woolly bass is the opposite of tight.

The dictionary adds:  "Lacking sharp detail or clarity".

Get it? Got it? Good.  biggrin.gif
Nope, I much prefer "wooly". It is a special audio term and has nothing to do with your attempt of definition. smily_headphones1.gif
post #7946 of 18011
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Nope, I much prefer "wooly". It is a special audio term and has nothing to do with your attempt of definition. smily_headphones1.gif

 

hahaha. What does wooly mean then? I can see how it is the opposite of tight but my HE500's bass is pretty tight... (that's what she...) I haven't heard anything with tighter bass than my HE500's so maybe this is "wooly" but I can't hear it.

post #7947 of 18011
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Originally Posted by highrolller View Post
 

 

hahaha. What does wooly mean then? I can see how it is the opposite of tight but my HE500's bass is pretty tight... (that's what she...) I haven't heard anything with tighter bass than my HE500's so maybe this is "wooly" but I can't hear it.

 

It's only wooly when you put it beside other modern orthos (like HE400, HE6, LCD2, LCD3) and A/B them. Against most other headphones it actually is less wooly. There is a wooliness scale, most dynamics are to the poor side, HE500 is near the top, other modern orthos (as well as some summit-fi cans of other driver types) are at the top.

 
There is a rumour though, that HE500's bass loses all traces of wooliness when paired with particular amps.
post #7948 of 18011

So can we just say that HE-500 is wooly in comparison to certain select headphones, but as standalone headphones in comparison to the general population, these are nowhere near wooly...and move on from this.

post #7949 of 18011
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

 

It's only wooly when you put it beside other modern orthos (like HE400, HE6, LCD2, LCD3) and A/B them. Against most other headphones it actually is less wooly. There is a wooliness scale, most dynamics are to the poor side, HE500 is near the top, other modern orthos (as well as some summit-fi cans of other driver types) are at the top.

 
There is a rumour though, that HE500's bass loses all traces of wooliness when paired with particular amps.

Please tell me the Lyr is one?

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Originally Posted by highrolller View Post
 

 

hahaha. What does wooly mean then? I can see how it is the opposite of tight but my HE500's bass is pretty tight... (that's what she...) I haven't heard anything with tighter bass than my HE500's so maybe this is "wooly" but I can't hear it.

 

It's only wooly when you put it beside other modern orthos (like HE400, HE6, LCD2, LCD3) and A/B them. Against most other headphones it actually is less wooly. There is a wooliness scale, most dynamics are to the poor side, HE500 is near the top, other modern orthos (as well as some summit-fi cans of other driver types) are at the top.

 
There is a rumour though, that HE500's bass loses all traces of wooliness when paired with particular amps.

 

I was actually curious about this and I hooked mine up to my Matrix M-stage, and I heard a little bit less transparency and speed in the bass, so maybe I understand this a bit better. Definitely not the case on my speaker amp though.
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