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Originally Posted by Pianist View Post
 

I disagree that T1 beats HE-500 in everything, but bass. That's not true at all IMO. Firstly, look at the measurements for both - objectively, HE-500 is actually the better headphone. T1 has very apparent ringing, while HE-500 is much cleaner. Whether that's audible or not, is a different question, but the fact is that HE-500 measures cleaner than T1. Secondly, I think that HE-500 can easily match, if not surpass T1 in clarity, tonality, transient response, resolution and almost everything else actually, except for soundstage dimensionality and maybe imaging. I love the sound of both, but I do think T1 is overpriced compared to HE-500, as it's not better overall and yet costs significantly more.

 

Yup. I'm surprised the T1 hasn't been wrung out more on head-fi. I think that in many ways people hear it and due to it's price, they think "this is what high fidelity sounds like". The T1 definitely lacks the speed and delicacy of an orthodynamic driver. The only reason it may appear to be more "detailed" than the HE-500 is due to the very high treble peak, which may give off the impression that they are more detailed. 

 

The work and technology put into the T1 doesn't really justify the price. From a technical perspective, it has a lot of flaws that were not reviewed. 

 

I haven't heard the T90, but if they do have more treble than the T1, my ears shudder at the thought. 


Edited by elwappo99 - 9/17/13 at 3:00pm
post #7922 of 16442
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post

i found my GSX really fixed alot of the wooliness, its still there, but less of a problem.
Try the modulor pads...the investment is low and it really helps to improve the 'shortcomings' of the he500..if ur gsx already solved part f it..then u have to try it for sure! I used to use the velours..this is one step further! Am curious what these pads will do to the he6... Anyone tried yet?
post #7923 of 16442
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Yup. I'm surprised the T1 hasn't been wrung out more on head-fi. I think that in many ways people hear it and due to it's price, they think "this is what high fidelity sounds like". The T1 definitely lacks the speed and delicacy of an orthodynamic driver. The only reason it may appear to be more "detailed" than the HE-500 is due to the very high treble peak, which may give off the impression that they are more detailed. 

 

The work and technology put into the T1 doesn't really justify the price. From a technical perspective, it has a lot of flaws that were not reviewed. 

 

I haven't heard the T90, but if they do have more treble than the T1, my ears shudder at the thought. 

 

indeed that is beyers Sound... BRIGHT and don't get delicacy from the HE 500 being so mid thick and having such wooly bass, still I wouldn't mind owing an audio technica Flag Ship that's open or a HE 5LE which is apprently less... mid heavy and thick than the HE 500 

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indeed that is beyers Sound... BRIGHT and don't get delicacy from the HE 500 being so mid thick and having such wooly bass, still I wouldn't mind owing an audio technica Flag Ship that's open or a HE 5LE which is apprently less... mid heavy and thick than the HE 500 

"Such wooly bass" LOL. It's still a tighter bass than most dynamic headphones.

post #7925 of 16442
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Originally Posted by spurxiii View Post

Does HE actually stand for high end?

 

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Originally Posted by khaine1711 View Post
 

 

It stands for High End. Whether it's actually high end or not is another matter. 

 

Just like there's nothing High Definition from the Senn Hd202 :D 

 

I don't think so either... does that make HE-300 and HE-400 high end as well? :smile: 

post #7926 of 16442
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

"Such wooly bass" LOL. It's still a tighter bass than most dynamic headphones.

 

It the bass is tighter than the AD900x it's going to sound a little fake with wooden instruments, but for EDM the tighter the better imo. but as always just need to hear it honestly... but the joy of an acoustic bass is it's decay. same applies to a Cello and Double Bass A cello is nicer with a REALLY tight bass, but a Double Bass need's some decay for that reality. Honestly the W1000x still has a tad to much bass decay imo, but for things like a Double Bass or an eletric Bass it's top notch. even the cello has such a nicer timbre out of my [it's modded btw] w1000x over any can I own

 
but as always... hard to say anything till I get my ears in it 
post #7927 of 16442
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indeed that is beyers Sound... BRIGHT and don't get delicacy from the HE 500 being so mid thick and having such wooly bass, still I wouldn't mind owing an audio technica Flag Ship that's open or a HE 5LE which is apprently less... mid heavy and thick than the HE 500 

"Such wooly bass" LOL. It's still a tighter bass than most dynamic headphones.

 

I'm not sure where this "wooly bass" comment is coming from either :confused:
post #7928 of 16442
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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post
 

 

I'm not sure where this "wooly bass" comment is coming from either :confused:

 

Dub Step girl called the bass wooly, or suggesting that it lacks a natrual decay, that it's too tight. 

post #7929 of 16442
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I'm not sure where this "wooly bass" comment is coming from either :confused:

 

Dub Step girl called the bass wooly, or suggesting that it lacks a natrual decay, that it's too tight. 

 

"Wooly" is a weird word to use in audio. It generally implies a fuzziness, which would contradict suggesting it's too tight.
 
 
Also, Pianist mentioned the ringing on the T1, which is by far some of the worst of any higher end headphone. The ringing that occurs around 8kHz is nearly off the charts. 
post #7930 of 16442
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

 

Dub Step girl called the bass wooly, or suggesting that it lacks a natrual decay, that it's too tight. 

 

Wait, hold up. I describe wooly as being fluffy and loose, i.e. not tight. I don't think wooly means too tight, in fact the opposite. Something too tight would be LCD-2/3, i.e. not wooly.

 
Or am I missing here?
post #7931 of 16442

New topic of this thread.  Please define "wooly" in your understanding/words regarding audio.  :p

post #7932 of 16442
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post
 

New topic of this thread.  Please define "wooly" in your understanding/words regarding audio.  :p

 

Can I get wooly in a sentence please?

post #7933 of 16442
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post
 

 

Wait, hold up. I describe wooly as being fluffy and loose, i.e. not tight. I don't think wooly means too tight, in fact the opposite. Something too tight would be LCD-2/3, i.e. not wooly.

 
Or am I missing here?

 

I don't like it either, personally I still use the phrase "lacking decay, unnaturally  tight" in my reviews to describe that, but yea let's drop the wolly word and move forward xD 

post #7934 of 16442
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post
 

New topic of this thread.  Please define "wooly" in your understanding/words regarding audio.  :p

 

Can I get wooly in a sentence please?

 

I'll take ambiguous words audiophiles use for 400  :p
 
 

 


Edited by elwappo99 - 9/17/13 at 4:01pm
post #7935 of 16442
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I'll take ambiguous words audiophiles use for 400  :p

 

Alrighty then Elwapp

 
name this word used to describe an "overly tight Bass" 
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