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post #7546 of 16676
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post
 

 

 

get a better DAC and try again

 

Why would the DAC hinder the Lyr and not the O2?

post #7547 of 16676
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Originally Posted by barretp View Post
 

 

Why would the DAC hinder the Lyr and not the O2?

 

 

Because the lyr is way more transparent, it can give you more of everything, thus the dac becomes a bottleneck or a limiting factor cutting off the full capability of the lyr. I didn't see what dac dubstep girl was referring to or what you are using, but she knows what she's talking about. If the source sounds like garbage the amplifier isn't going to magically make it better, it's just amplifying the garbage, ya dig?

post #7548 of 16676
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Because the lyr is way more transparent, it can give you more of everything, thus the dac becomes a bottleneck or a limiting factor cutting off the full capability of the lyr. I didn't see what dac dubstep girl was referring to or what you are using, but she knows what she's talking about. If the source sounds like garbage the amplifier isn't going to magically make it better, it's just amplifying the garbage, ya dig?

 

Yeah I understand that, but I'm using the same DAC for both the O2 and Lyr, and I think the O2 sounds better. I guess a better DAC might have more synergy with the Lyr. 

post #7549 of 16676
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Originally Posted by barretp View Post
 

 

Yeah I understand that, but I'm using the same DAC for both the O2 and Lyr, and I think the O2 sounds better. I guess a better DAC might have more synergy with the Lyr. 

 

 

Oh that's kinda weird. If the DAC is really terrible to the point where it makes both systems sound the same aside from volume/coloration then that would make sense. Otherwise I'm not sure. What DAC are you using anyway?

post #7550 of 16676
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Originally Posted by barretp View Post
 

Ok I think I've had my HE-500s long enough to make an honest impression. Coming from the Q701s, these suckers pack a punch. I'm really loving the bass. I think they play electronica and rock music extremely well. Comparing directly with the Q701s, the sound stage is slightly reduced and overall sound separation or distinction is slightly reduced. To me the Q701s, were airy, but very clear, with subtle bass. The main reason I bought the Q701s was for gaming. The HE-500s produce a much fuller richer sound. The HE-500s are more forgiving than the Q701s. The Q701s are more analytical where can you hear the smallest details. I am driving them both off the ODAC/O2. 

 

I thought the O2 amp might be limiting the HE-500s, so I bough the Lyr with the Amperex Orange Globe tubes to see if I could give some proper power to these cans. Honestly, I am not impressed. Maybe, I just don't like the sound of tubes over SS. I feel like the O2 produced a cleaner sound. I could easily hear distinctions between different sounds. The base and mids were tight and impactful. The Lyr just seemed to smooth over everything. It still sounded great, but I did not prefer it to the O2. I'm going to sell the Lyr and see if I can get a better SS amp. 

Very true.

post #7551 of 16676
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Originally Posted by barretp View Post
 

Yeah I understand that, but I'm using the same DAC for both the O2 and Lyr, and I think the O2 sounds better. I guess a better DAC might have more synergy with the Lyr. 

 

No need to doubt your ODAC and go for other DACs if you feel that the ODAC/O2 combination is fine.

post #7552 of 16676
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Originally Posted by Llloyd View Post
 

 

 

Oh that's kinda weird. If the DAC is really terrible to the point where it makes both systems sound the same aside from volume/coloration then that would make sense. Otherwise I'm not sure. What DAC are you using anyway?

 

I'm using the ODAC.

post #7553 of 16676

Yeah idk I've never heard the lyr anyway so I can't really comment, I misred the original statement besides. Maybe you just like the o2/odac better. It does seem weird though because of how highly most lyr owners speak of it.

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If you like Solid state amps then check out the Emotiva as an option and get yourself an adapter with speaker taps. I preferred its sound compared to the Project Sunrise 2, which is also a SS + tube hybrid like the Lyr but less powerful, but an excellent amp none the less. There has been enough said of this combo in this thread and the Emotiva amp thread, so do check it out, but if you are happy with what the ODAC+O2 combination give you, then stick with it. It is a definite benefit of the HE-500 that it plays nice with entry level gear.

 

You can also try rolling some tubes on the Lyr. There are a lot of tubes that will give you a lot of transparency like the Amperex orange labelled tubes. I am also sure the Lyr should sound excellent with the Genalex Gold Lions. That is one significant advantages of valves, as you can swap them out to give you better synergy with your current gear. With SS you either like it, or get rid of it!

post #7555 of 16676
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post
 

 

 

get a better DAC and try again

 

This. And throw the stock tubes away.

post #7556 of 16676

Project Ember has been mentioned many times on this thread, but very few impressions were given about it. 
Anyone using Ember + HE500? Others have said it's quite a bit better than the Sunrise 2.

post #7557 of 16676
Hi there, I'm new to this forum and I was thinking about getting the hifiman he500. Amp/Dac combination wise I was thinking of getting the audio gd compass 2. There are three different versions of this amp so which one do you think I should get? Is this amp/dac a good combination for the hifiman he500 or are there better combinations in the same price range?
Lastly, I live in the UK and I found if I import the headphones from America I can save about £200! However, do you think the headphones would be well protected for transport overseas or would there be a good chance that they could get damaged?

Many thanks
Pumelman8
post #7558 of 16676
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Originally Posted by Pumelman8 View Post

Hi there, I'm new to this forum and I was thinking about getting the hifiman he500. Amp/Dac combination wise I was thinking of getting the audio gd compass 2. There are three different versions of this amp so which one do you think I should get? Is this amp/dac a good combination for the hifiman he500 or are there better combinations in the same price range?
Lastly, I live in the UK and I found if I import the headphones from America I can save about £200! However, do you think the headphones would be well protected for transport overseas or would there be a good chance that they could get damaged?

Many thanks
Pumelman8

 

I suppose  many would be inclined towards the sabre. I would personally try the 384 version.

There is no risk with the overseas transport, the pack is very durable.


Edited by i019791 - 9/7/13 at 5:24am
post #7559 of 16676
Could you please give me the full name of the amp/dac as I can't find it online?
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