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Originally Posted by Smoke Signals View Post

I'm looking to add another pair of headphones to my collection (currently have a HD650 and HM5 Brainwavz clone) and it looks like I've come down to the LCD2 and HE-500 as my two options.  I'd like a neutral sound and I've generally heard good things about both, but I can't seem to pull the trigger on either one.  Any suggestions?

 

My main concern besides sonic characteristics is the weight, given that my current headphones are pretty light.

 

I'm aware I will probably get biased feedback given the thread I'm posting in.

 

What are you amping with or planning to amp with?

 

Also, if you get either of these, you'll end up getting the other one as well over time. I personally got the HE-500 first as I found a good deal on it for around $500ish. LCD-2 joined the club a few months later. 

 

I think HE-500 is more of a crowd pleaser than the LCD-2. It suits more genres than the LCD-2. HE-500 is love at first listen. It can be the same with LCD-2 for some, but for me it took a while to appreciate and love them. Neutrality wise, that's more HE-500. Although LCD-2 has amazing bass to mid coherency. Then some funky cool weird stuff starts to happen in upper mids/treble where it takes a dip, although a very pleasant soothing one at that.

 

Both are heavy but still liveable. HE-500 has less clamping force than HE-500, although I like the LCD-2 pads and fit better with the angled fit as opposed to the flat fit of HE-500.

post #7382 of 14174
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Originally Posted by Smoke Signals View Post

I'm looking to add another pair of headphones to my collection (currently have a HD650 and HM5 Brainwavz clone) and it looks like I've come down to the LCD2 and HE-500 as my two options.  I'd like a neutral sound and I've generally heard good things about both, but I can't seem to pull the trigger on either one.  Any suggestions?

 

My main concern besides sonic characteristics is the weight, given that my current headphones are pretty light.

 

I'm aware I will probably get biased feedback given the thread I'm posting in.

 

Well, I would not say either has a super neutral sound, at least not what people consider analytical. I bought the HE-500 for the price but also the LCD was a little too dark for me. I think most people can be happy with either headphone. I personally feel the HE-500 works best for me ofc, so that's the bias, it seems to represent the type of music that I like quite well. I always felt the LCD did really well with jazz for some reason though.

post #7383 of 14174
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Originally Posted by Smoke Signals View Post

I'm looking to add another pair of headphones to my collection (currently have a HD650 and HM5 Brainwavz clone) and it looks like I've come down to the LCD2 and HE-500 as my two options.  I'd like a neutral sound and I've generally heard good things about both, but I can't seem to pull the trigger on either one.  Any suggestions?

 

My main concern besides sonic characteristics is the weight, given that my current headphones are pretty light.

 

I'm aware I will probably get biased feedback given the thread I'm posting in.

I was able to audition both of these headphones at length and chose the HE-500's but not just because of the sound. I actually liked the LCD's ever so slightly better but wasn't able to find a position that didn't eventually hurt my head where the top of the headband touched. To my ears the 500's are definitely brighter but not overly so. The bass in the LCD's seemed to be ever so slightly deeper (sub-bass some call it) but the 500 seems tighter which appeals to me more. 

 

I honestly don't think you can go wrong with either but the money saved buying the HE-500's could be used on new/more music. Also, I have used a Clip+ as a source/amp with no issues other than it not getting loud enough. Amps make very little difference (but that's another forum).

post #7384 of 14174
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Originally Posted by roadcykler View Post

I was able to audition both of these headphones at length and chose the HE-500's but not just because of the sound. I actually liked the LCD's ever so slightly better but wasn't able to find a position that didn't eventually hurt my head where the top of the headband touched. To my ears the 500's are definitely brighter but not overly so. The bass in the LCD's seemed to be ever so slightly deeper (sub-bass some call it) but the 500 seems tighter which appeals to me more. 

 

I honestly don't think you can go wrong with either but the money saved buying the HE-500's could be used on new/more music. Also, I have used a Clip+ as a source/amp with no issues other than it not getting loud enough. Amps make very little difference (but that's another forum).

 

I had a similar problem and fixed it by pulling the headband apart evenly throughout the whole band. No awkward concentrated clamping forces. You could give that at a shot in the future.

post #7385 of 14174

It's really close to impossible to bend spring steel headbands such that they mold perfectly against the cranium of a specific listener...bend it too wide and you get hotspot at top, bend it too narrow and you get awful clamping. And it's not just about the wideness of the headband either, but also its curvature (whether it's rounded, pointy, square-ish, domed), that determine the theoretical perfect fit.

 

Semi-suspended straps of somewhat yielding material i.e. leather is really the only way to go for ultimate adaptive headband comfort.

post #7386 of 14174
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Originally Posted by Smoke Signals View Post

I'm looking to add another pair of headphones to my collection (currently have a HD650 and HM5 Brainwavz clone) and it looks like I've come down to the LCD2 and HE-500 as my two options.  I'd like a neutral sound and I've generally heard good things about both, but I can't seem to pull the trigger on either one.  Any suggestions?

 

My main concern besides sonic characteristics is the weight, given that my current headphones are pretty light.

 

I'm aware I will probably get biased feedback given the thread I'm posting in.

The HE-5LE is more neutral than HE-500, and it's lighter too. The caveat is that it's very power hungry.

post #7387 of 14174
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The HE-5LE is more neutral than HE-500, and it's lighter too. The caveat is that it's very power hungry.

really interesting

post #7388 of 14174
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The HE-5LE is more neutral than HE-500, and it's lighter too. The caveat is that it's very power hungry.

 

on what amp?

 

i found the HE-5LE less colored than HE-500, but it had more of a U shaped response, the mids where a little recessed and the treble went up higher. bass was really punchy and the midbass seemed boosted. i liked it quite a bit, but definitely not neutral, just less colorations.

post #7389 of 14174
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post

 

on what amp?

 

i found the HE-5LE less colored than HE-500, but it had more of a U shaped response, the mids where a little recessed and the treble went up higher. bass was really punchy and the midbass seemed boosted. i liked it quite a bit, but definitely not neutral, just less colorations.

The Mjolnir. I don't recall the mids being recessed, but the treble was well extended, with perhaps a touch of mid bass boost. It is more revealing and less colored, which is why i said its more neutral than HE-500. I didn't say that the HE-5LE was neutral, just in comparison to HE-500.

post #7390 of 14174
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The Mjolnir. I don't recall the mids being recessed, but the treble was well extended, with perhaps a touch of mid bass boost. It is more revealing and less colored, which is why i said its more neutral than HE-500. I didn't say that the HE-5LE was neutral, just in comparison to HE-500.

oh ok.

 

yeah i found the same thing. maybe the mids where recessed for me a bit because they need a bit more power than the 2W the WA6-SE gives, maybe they need more like 3-4 to really be comfortable. im sure the mjolnir or a soloist would drive them better.

post #7391 of 14174

New HE-500 owner joining the club. I have about 8-10 hours on them. I bought them from the original owner off Craigslist. So far, definitely a step up from the AKG Q701s.

post #7392 of 14174
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Originally Posted by Smoke Signals View Post

I'm looking to add another pair of headphones to my collection (currently have a HD650 and HM5 Brainwavz clone) and it looks like I've come down to the LCD2 and HE-500 as my two options.  I'd like a neutral sound and I've generally heard good things about both, but I can't seem to pull the trigger on either one.  Any suggestions?

 

My main concern besides sonic characteristics is the weight, given that my current headphones are pretty light.

 

I'm aware I will probably get biased feedback given the thread I'm posting in.

I owned the HE-500's and sold them. Since you asked for an honest answer, yes they are VERY heavy. If you have any concerns about the weight you should find a place to audition them for at least 1 hour before buying. It may save you a lot of pain or you may be one of the lucky ones with a strong neck and back that can take the weight.

post #7393 of 14174
The lcd2 are said to be heavy too though.
post #7394 of 14174
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Originally Posted by Chodi View Post

I owned the HE-500's and sold them. Since you asked for an honest answer, yes they are VERY heavy. If you have any concerns about the weight you should find a place to audition them for at least 1 hour before buying. It may save you a lot of pain or you may be one of the lucky ones with a strong neck and back that can take the weight.

 

Good point. Me and my dad were fine with it for example. My mom on the other hand took it off immediately and told me to stop wearing these as well LOL

post #7395 of 14174
If you think the weight is bad, try them with glasses. Oh the pain.
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