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Anyone get neck pain from these?
post #7217 of 18028
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Originally Posted by Flognuts View Post

Anyone get neck pain from these?

I think my neck is really strong now because when I put on my mad dogs they seem light as a feather and they aren't the lightest cans either. So no more neck pain.
post #7218 of 18028
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Originally Posted by jexby View Post

Look Canadians,
if it's common to "fake claims" of fraud of headphones not being received in shipment as humor, then yah fooey on me.
I may be new to head-fi but old to the game of "BBS Forums on the nutty USENET dialup".

so if the original "I didn't receive my HE-500 I got bricks in the mail" was an attempt at humor, well- color it boring and a waste of time.
which it appears this post was as well.  sigh.

back to the music,

You need to relax is all my fellow Canucks were saying. Getting your panties in a bunch over nothing just isn't worth it. If this story is accurate HiFiman will set it right. If its troll-bait then I'd say it worked.

Oh, and you spelled colour wrong.
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Originally Posted by jexby View Post

 

Ya'll think that's a "mistake"?  When a known legit company regularly ships off expensive equipment, but the Postal or UPS workers know "what to open, grab and remove with similarly weighted" dummy objects?

sorry.  that's called theft in my book.

hope head direct gets you the real HP soon!

 

Wow I leave you guys on your own and this is what it leads to, I see. Seems like some folk misunderstood jexby as sort of attacking my post. He wasn't - he was referring to thievery of goods at the post office etc that can be seem like a 'mistake' delivery to others is all. Don't worry Jexby let's keep this understanding between us a secret from the other guys wink.gif.
 
In all seriousness, I have yet to have any mail fraud etc happen to me. Although once, a guy did cheat me of my money on ebay and ran overseas. Ah what can you do...things are much safer in ebay now but still there are 'openings' like post offices etc. One case in Melbourne: a guy walks in to a shop that was expecting a large delivery and just wheels off with a single trolley jack of thousand dollar goodies. A shame there are people like that....But let's not get carried away as this may have been just a simple mistake. 
post #7220 of 18028

Ordered my HE-500 yesterday. Excited.

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Originally Posted by Pedro Keil View Post


 

Funny Story:

 I ordered my pair of hifiman HE 500 about 20 days ago from ebay. Today it arrived and look what I found in the box:

 

 

 

This is some kind of led lamp with a speaker, and there is 4 of them.

I alredy send a message to head-director, and I m pretty shure this came all along from china, because inside the box there is the invoice and it says Hifiman HE 500.

Now I m waiting for Head Director s answer. mad.gif

Until now everything is going OK.

The seller said he is going to resend to me. Hope this time things work out 

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Originally Posted by Pedro Keil View Post

Until now everything is going OK.

The seller said he is going to resend to me. Hope this time things work out 

Let's hope they send you an HE-6 by mistake biggrin.gif

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Let's hope they send you an HE-6 by mistake biggrin.gif

Yeah, and a EF6 to pair it properly       bigsmile_face.gif

post #7224 of 18028

Hmmm, plugged my HE-500s into my 5 channel Myryad MX5150 power amplifier tonight just for the heck of it. Boy and does this sound a lot better than the Emotiva mini-x. The mini-x is pretty decent as far as speaker amps go, but there are definite limits to the amount of detail it can resolve. The Myryad also plays a lot cleaner with more microdynamics and sound stage definition. I was kind of worried plugging my headphones into a 150W amp, but my pre-amp gave me a surprisingly amount of flexibility on the volume control. A real pity I can't put this 40kg monster on my desk!

 

I am starting to wonder whether it is worthwhile at all to look at good headphone amplifiers for the Hifimans? I am currently considering getting a Audio-GD NFB-28 / NFB-10ES2, but for slightly more money I could get a very good Marantz KI-Pearl Lite amplifier for the price of a decent level headphone amplifier and I'm thinking I'll probably get better results out of the speaker amplifier, never mind that integrated amplifiers are a much easier sell later on.


Edited by daerron - 8/21/13 at 2:21pm
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Originally Posted by daerron View Post

Hmmm, plugged my HE-500s into my 5 channel Myryad MX5150 power amplifier tonight just for the heck of it. Boy and does this sound a lot better than the Emotiva mini-x. The mini-x is pretty decent as far as speaker amps go, but there are definite limits to the amount of detail it can resolve. The Myryad also plays a lot cleaner with more microdynamics and sound stage definition. I was kind of worried plugging my headphones into a 150W amp, but my pre-amp gave me a surprisingly amount of flexibility on the volume control. A real pity I can't put this 40kg monster on my desk!

 

I am starting to wonder whether it is worthwhile at all to look at good headphone amplifiers for the Hifimans? I am currently considering getting a Audio-GD NFB-28 / NFB-10ES2, but for slightly more money I could get a very good Marantz KI-Pearl Lite amplifier for the price of a decent level headphone amplifier and I'm thinking I'll probably get better results out of the speaker amplifier, never mind that integrated amplifiers are a much easier sell later on.

 

That's why I always thought it strange that people use the emotivas with the HE-500, well not so much that they use it, but the hype surrounding that amplifier when paired with the 500s. Anyway I would imagine a good, resolving speaker amp would do better with the HE-500 compared to an integrated.  That's what people have reported in general.

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Originally Posted by Llloyd View Post

 

That's why I always thought it strange that people use the emotivas with the HE-500, well not so much that they use it, but the hype surrounding that amplifier when paired with the 500s. Anyway I would imagine a good, resolving speaker amp would do better with the HE-500 compared to an integrated.  That's what people have reported in general.


Why is it strange?  For $189 and you could drive the HE500 a lot better than many HP amps cost 2x, 3x more.  Is it the best?  Heck no.  Is it great for the money?  Absolute yes.  Of course, there's tons of speaker amps out there that will drive the HE500 better but at what cost?  I am also looking into vintage sansui and pioneer but those, for good ones, are around $700, $800 and up.

I thought the Mini-X was a hype too so I bought 1 just for the heck of it and to verify for myself.  Just keep things in perspective.

 

Also, have you ever listened to Mini-X/HE500 combo with a good DAC?  Btw, my taboo will be incoming soon, I'll see how much better it will be at driving the HE500 for 9x the $.  For me, the Mini-X purchase was not because of budget but I wanted to give it a try and I am still glad I did.


Edited by koiloco - 8/21/13 at 5:14pm
post #7227 of 18028
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Originally Posted by daerron View Post

Hmmm, plugged my HE-500s into my 5 channel Myryad MX5150 power amplifier tonight just for the heck of it. Boy and does this sound a lot better than the Emotiva mini-x. The mini-x is pretty decent as far as speaker amps go, but there are definite limits to the amount of detail it can resolve. The Myryad also plays a lot cleaner with more microdynamics and sound stage definition. I was kind of worried plugging my headphones into a 150W amp, but my pre-amp gave me a surprisingly amount of flexibility on the volume control. A real pity I can't put this 40kg monster on my desk!

 

I am starting to wonder whether it is worthwhile at all to look at good headphone amplifiers for the Hifimans? I am currently considering getting a Audio-GD NFB-28 / NFB-10ES2, but for slightly more money I could get a very good Marantz KI-Pearl Lite amplifier for the price of a decent level headphone amplifier and I'm thinking I'll probably get better results out of the speaker amplifier, never mind that integrated amplifiers are a much easier sell later on.


I have been doing recording and mixing for quite a while now but I am not sure that I am puzzled or want to laugh about micro dynamics and sound stage definition every time I hear those terms mentioned in a review or in a post.  Maybe, people have super hearing and I am just deaf.  Please give me some sample tracks/music genres... that I could try to identify these things.  I am always willing to learn.

post #7228 of 18028
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post


I have been doing recording and mixing for quite a while now but I am not sure that I am puzzled or want to laugh about micro dynamics and sound stage definition every time I hear those terms mentioned in a review or in a post.  Maybe, people have super hearing and I am just deaf.  Please give me some sample tracks/music genres... that I could try to identify these things.  I am always willing to learn.

 

The only genre where the whole "micro" dynamics is important is in classical where the loudness of instruments in a section can be just as important as the tonality. I played percussion and woodwinds for a couple of years and to swing the notes correctly along with the right change in volume over a particular time is very crucial. That separates great performances from excellent ones. Also, the dynamic range of a track on average is highest in classical music.

 

I don't think that's true for any other genre as a whole. For other genres, this doesn't matter as much. Even in electronic music of all kinds, you have a bunch of channels. Increasing one or two channels by a few dB on average won't alter the recording as much as it would in a classical symphony track. Also, so much compressing now days. Although it's been getting better. More compressing on the individual channels rather than on the master. It gives more of a pop that way. 

 

Now soundstage is a whole different thing. I think it's more of a preference thing honestly. Also, it's genre and application (movies, TV shows, music, ASMR etc.) dependent.

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Originally Posted by Llloyd View Post

 

That's why I always thought it strange that people use the emotivas with the HE-500, well not so much that they use it, but the hype surrounding that amplifier when paired with the 500s. Anyway I would imagine a good, resolving speaker amp would do better with the HE-500 compared to an integrated.  That's what people have reported in general.

 

I don't think there is any hype about the Emotiva. No one claims or should claim that Emotiva is the best or refined. I don't think that at all. However I do think that for $200 to drive the HE-500, it's a solid option as it doubles for bookshelf and planars. Also, it works with Audeze although volume play is not as good, but that's pretty much it. Nothing revolutionary going on with Emotiva. I myself prefer Marantz PM amps over the Emotiva.

post #7230 of 18028

I just took delivery of a set of HE-500s and was expecting a male 4-pin XLR connector with a single ended adapter. Now I'm waiting for a nice Neutrik XLR connector from ebay so I can modify the cable to work with the Mjolnir. The HE-500s do sound good with the Aune T1 though.

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