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Thanks to everyone who answered but anyone else wanna add some responses too?  Also I have been listening to my new babies for the past few hours and I am loving them more and more!  Plus they will get better too with burn in?  OmG

Asgard2 is a great amp but you still owe your HE500 a little more raw power.  I was so skeptical about the entire speaker tap deal because my E17/E9K combo was plenty loud for the HE500 (what did I know).  Then came the Emotiva...Ever since, I got to listen to my music collection no less than couple hrs/day.  Go try it if you have a chance.

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Asgard2 is a great amp but you still owe your HE500 a little more raw power.  I was so skeptical about the entire speaker tap deal because my E17/E9K combo was plenty loud for the HE500 (what did I know).  Then came the Emotiva...Ever since, I got to listen to my music collection no less than couple hrs/day.  Go try it if you have a chance.
I dont know why..but listening to my he500 through my onkyo speakeramp just doesnt hit the sweet spot with me..it lacks passion and life in the music..something my evil 337 was extreme good at..making music come alive... I wonder if this colder more analictic sound is standard to any ss amp..as i simply dont like it WITH my he500... As driver for my 6+1 surround tannoy speakers with 2 huge mono subwoofers its a wonderfull amp..i guess the soundsignature is not compatible with the he500... It cant be power as it does..if i am not mistaken..7x140 watts..but i use it in 2channel direct source mode...bypassing everything that can affect the sound quality (according to the manual..lolz).. But its just to bright..after a while i just get a headache..i never ever had that with both my mstage and my evil 337..... So weird!!!
Edited by hifimanrookie - 8/15/13 at 8:57pm
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343mw, isn't a whole lot for the HE-500, is it? Doesn't seem like it'd give the HE-500 its full juice.

 

However, it does have VU meters in front. I'm a sucker for VU meters.

 

It's more than enough for the he-500. For 400$ no amount of power is going to make your HE-500 sound better. Quality power and synergy is where it counts from my experience with lower priced gear. While my taboo is in the shop I'm using a little dot mk2 which most people would not even recommend for the HE-500, and even so it sounds very good, to the point that I'm nearly positive that power is not the main factor in making he-500 get to let's say 80-90% of it's capability. The extra power and the extra extension, dynamics, details etc all come from my taboo, and that's not just due to more power. It's just a fine amplifier. Even with my little dot, I don't go past 11 o clock ever,  most of the time it sits at 9. Anyway once you get all those other things, I think more power can make the difference in pushing the HE-500 to that extreme.  The whole 1W thing is complete nonsense though.

 

I kind of drew this conclusion when I owned both the asgard and my little dot amplifier. Asgard has 1W at 32 I believe, and the little dot has 100-200mw at 32ohm, but still I preferred the little dot (with ef92 tubes) ever so slightly.  Same price range, yet power made little difference to the HE-500.

 

Power is just one of MANY factors with this headphone don't forget that. I think power is a worthy sacrifice at lower price range due to typically, at the sub $500 range, amplifiers all have compromises in one way or the other. I'd rather have one that focuses more on the first 80-90% than the last 10-20%. I would estimate the minimum for the he-500 to sound good would be around 100-150mw.

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It's more than enough for the he-500. For 400$ no amount of power is going to make your HE-500 sound better. Quality power and synergy is where it counts from my experience with lower priced gear. While my taboo is in the shop I'm using a little dot mk2 which most people would not even recommend for the HE-500, and even so it sounds very good, to the point that I'm nearly positive that power is not the main factor in making he-500 get to let's say 80-90% of it's capability. The extra power and the extra extension, dynamics, details etc all come from my taboo, and that's not just due to more power. It's just a fine amplifier. Even with my little dot, I don't go past 11 o clock ever,  most of the time it sits at 9. Anyway once you get all those other things, I think more power can make the difference in pushing the HE-500 to that extreme.  The whole 1W thing is complete nonsense though.

I kind of drew this conclusion when I owned both the asgard and my little dot amplifier. Asgard has 1W at 32 I believe, and the little dot has 100-200mw at 32ohm, but still I preferred the little dot (with ef92 tubes) ever so slightly.  Same price range, yet power made little difference to the HE-500.

Power is just one of MANY factors with this headphone don't forget that. I think power is a worthy sacrifice at lower price range due to typically, at the sub $500 range, amplifiers all have compromises in one way or the other. I'd rather have one that focuses more on the first 80-90% than the last 10-20%. I would estimate the minimum for the he-500 to sound good would be around 100-150mw.
Yes i agree with the same..i dont believe power is the keyfactor in getting the best out of ur he500... I am now using a very powerful amp out of nessecity...and i just hate the sound that comes out of my he500... My trillion times less powerfull 337 just anniliates this amp (eventhough this amp is no budget model) soundwise...pity i sold him! Its all about synergy and quality power if u wanna drive ur he500 to its limits SOUNDQUALITY wise.. Am not talking bout POWERFULL SOUND...but about MUSIC COMING ALIVE as if ur there with the artist..and only the better amps can do that because they have better components inside then ur regular budget 400usd multi watts amp... Imho
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Yes i agree with the same..i dont believe power is the keyfactor in getting the best out of ur he500... I am now using a very powerful amp out of nessecity...and i just hate the sound that comes out of my he500... My trillion times less powerfull 337 just anniliates this amp (eventhough this amp is no budget model) soundwise...pity i sold him! Its all about synergy and quality power if u wanna drive ur he500 to its limits SOUNDQUALITY wise.. Am not talking bout POWERFULL SOUND...but about MUSIC COMING ALIVE as if ur there with the artist..and only the better amps can do that because they have better components inside then ur regular budget 400usd multi watts amp... Imho

That's a very subjective feeling.  I do however agree that power is not the only factor but IT IS a factor you can't miss.  At the recent meet, I had the chance to try out the HD800 on many high end amps but "music did not come alive" for me at all.  I have a Taboo on order already and will compare it to the sound signature I have now from the Emotiva.  Coming from a pro audio background and used to play live a lot in a band, the Emotiva+HE500 combo gives me that lively feeling.  Somewhat raw, powerful, but at the same time smooth and not harsh.  At the meet, I think that Stoney gave the combo a perfect name.  He called it "the rocker setup".  Though, I am not a rocker but I know exactly what he meant; powerful, fast, clean, dynamic but still smooth.  Taboo will be my first HP tube amp so we'll see even though I am no stranger with tube sound/rolling in audio equipment from condenser mic to pre-amp and guitar head.


Edited by koiloco - 8/15/13 at 9:22pm
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That's a very subjective feeling.  I do however agree that power is not the only factor but IT IS a factor you can't miss.  At the recent meet, I had the chance to try out the HD800 on many high end amps but "music did not come alive" for me at all.  I have a Taboo on order already and will compare it to the sound signature I have now from the Emotiva.  Coming from a pro audio background and used to play live a lot in a band, the Emotiva+HE500 combo gives me that lively feeling.  Somewhat raw, powerful, but at the same time smooth and not harsh.  At the meet, I think that Stoney gave the combo a perfect name.  He called it "the rocker setup".  Though, I am not a rocker but I know exactly what he meant; powerful, fast, clean, dynamic but still smooth.  Taboo will be my first HP tube amp so we'll see even though I am no stranger with tube sound/rolling in audio equipment from condenser mic to pre-amp and guitar head.

 

I think you will find the taboo stock, assuming you have a good source, will do some crazy things with the HE-500. With well engineered albums some crazy stuff can happen that you might not expect your headphone to be capable of. Though I've never heard it, I find it extremely unlikely the the Emotiva amp can match the taboo in any category. Please post your impressions when you receive your taboo so we can see the differences!

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I think you will find the taboo stock, assuming you have a good source, will do some crazy things with the HE-500. With well engineered albums some crazy stuff can happen that you might not expect your headphone to be capable of. Though I've never heard it, I find it extremely unlikely the the Emotiva amp can match the taboo in any category. Please post your impressions when you receive your taboo so we can see the differences!

My source should be decent.  I have a some DSD tracks that I've listened to many times over and over since i got this new DAC.  I am still picking out some new artists from blue coast records. I am also slowly re-ripping my CD collection.  It's a pain in the behind.  tongue.gif  The taboo is still about 8 weeks out but I will definitely share my honest impression.  I have no problem admitting that I just spent $2k and can't hear no difference (Yes, I've done this before a few times with other hobbies rolleyes.gif).  I am really afraid that this might happen cuz I really like the Emotiva with my HE500.  The taboo is also for preparation of the HD800.  It's a cross amp for both HE500 and HD800.  That's my intention.  I hope it will work out well for both.

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What is this synergy you guys talk about? What do people think is best for the he500? Something warm? Or clean? Neutral? Bright? Tubey? Overall, I don't really see a lot of people having experience the he500 with multi amp at the $500 and below, it's usually one or the other and apparently a lot of them just sounds good. O2 amp? Good. Magni? Good. 11.32 ? Good. Yulong? Good. lyr? Good or great. a100X? Great. Compass? SA31SE? Great. Burson ha160?good or great. And of course most upper end one are good to fantastic.

I'm starting to think the he500 pair well with most desktop amp and climb higher with certain one. So since I have the magni, I'm trying to avoid the good as I think the magni is good. Just having problem distinguishing the great from good one.

(by the way my rating on those amp is most likely not correct just my assumption from reading impression)

In the end, I'm getting to the point of thinking about going safe and buy the lyr.
Edited by soundeffect - 8/15/13 at 10:36pm
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In the end, I'm getting to the point of thinking about going safe and buy the lyr.

 

Fine choice, Sir.  

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Just thought I'd put in a good word for the amp I use, the Audio-gd NFB-6, as an excellent SS amp/pre-amp with the HE-500 if you can run a balanced or ACSS source into it. (Single-ended use doesn't take advantage of this amp's best attributes.)  It was $530 shipped to the U.S. including the remote.  Having remote volume control that does not involve a potentiometer is hugely convenient!  The amp is dead neutral with an absolutely black background and delivers 5.92 W into the 500's 38 ohms.

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lyr or corda classic, you cant go wrong. 

 

these things will get loud without alot of power, but they need power to open everything up and sound their best

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Holy **** man I am a believer now and once I get the Lyr next year, when I can afford it, I am set for life.

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Holy **** man I am a believer now and once I get the Lyr next year, when I can afford it, I am set for life.

 

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when I can afford it, I am set for life.

 

 

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I am set for life.

 

 

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set for life.

 

 

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for life.

 

 

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life.

 

 

Okie! See you in a few months! 

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set for life.


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for life.
 

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Okie! See you in a few months! 
+1. Great reply 😄. That's what I thought too. Took me two months to go from Lyr to Mjolnir
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Anyone know if the company has a official twitter account?

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