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post #6946 of 18030
Love the HD 500 end game for a long time might upgrade dac to bifrost from odac have lyr amp
post #6947 of 18030
Hey modulor,
Just Got my pads! Wow that was fast!! Thanks!!!
BUT...
No 'how to' manual..i got three little plastic bags..two with the pads and one with small thingies...

u know i have two left hands right? Can u pls explain..or in pm..how to use those small thingies in that third bag. Or are the pads ready to be used? With the bass mod? .thanks!

And OMG..the built quality..i had my wife checking them out as she did fashion design in the past..and she was well impressed in how u put those two materials together!
She said..the pad looks like premium brand quality... And she knows whats she is talking about!

Well done ryan...if u play this right u could make a business out of this ..as damn...ur good!!!

Well done..only miss that manual how to use those extra parts..and why they are included..spare parts? redface.gif

Am so glad i jumped on the modulor wagon early biggrin.gif
Edited by hifimanrookie - 8/7/13 at 10:01am
post #6948 of 18030
They are for venting the pads.
post #6949 of 18030
Quote:
Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

Hey modulor,
Just Got my pads! Wow that was fast!! Thanks!!!
BUT...
No 'how to' manual..i got three little plastic bags..two with the pads and one with small thingies...

u know i have two left hands right? Can u pls explain..or in pm..how to use those small thingies in that third bag. Or are the pads ready to be used? With the bass mod? .thanks!

And OMG..the built quality..i had my wife checking them out as she did fashion design in the past..and she was well impressed in how u put those two materials together!
She said..the pad looks like premium brand quality... And she knows whats she is talking about!

Well done ryan...if u play this right u could make a business out of this ..as damn...ur good!!!

Well done..only miss that manual how to use those extra parts..and why they are included..spare parts? redface.gif

Am so glad i jumped on the modulor wagon early biggrin.gif

 

here you go for installation

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/646812/hifiman-he500-he400-jergpad-mod-v2-0-new-modulor-production-jergpads-impressions-added/675#post_9644743

post #6950 of 18030
Quote:
Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

Hey modulor,
Just Got my pads! Wow that was fast!! Thanks!!!
BUT...
No 'how to' manual..i got three little plastic bags..two with the pads and one with small thingies...

u know i have two left hands right? Can u pls explain..or in pm..how to use those small thingies in that third bag. Or are the pads ready to be used? With the bass mod? .thanks!

And OMG..the built quality..i had my wife checking them out as she did fashion design in the past..and she was well impressed in how u put those two materials together!
She said..the pad looks like premium brand quality... And she knows whats she is talking about!

Well done ryan...if u play this right u could make a business out of this ..as damn...ur good!!!

Well done..only miss that manual how to use those extra parts..and why they are included..spare parts? redface.gif

Am so glad i jumped on the modulor wagon early biggrin.gif

My apologies...I didn't get an opportunity to add in an instruction sheet.  That's awesome that they came so fast!  See ken's link to jergs review above, he actually explains the process quite well.  I'll have to plan on making sure I get a quick setup guide made for next round.

 

They can be used right out of the pack - the supplies for the bass mod aren't necessary, but you can add them later.  And yes, I did include extras for everyone.  That's awesome that we've now got an opinion from a fashion designer haha biggrin.gif Tell her I said thanks!  Maybe I missed my calling tongue.gif

post #6951 of 18030
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Originally Posted by modulor View Post

My apologies...I didn't get an opportunity to add in an instruction sheet.  That's awesome that they came so fast!  See ken's link to jergs review above, he actually explains the process quite well.  I'll have to plan on making sure I get a quick setup guide made for next round.

They can be used right out of the pack - the supplies for the bass mod aren't necessary, but you can add them later.  And yes, I did include extras for everyone.  That's awesome that we've now got an opinion from a fashion designer haha biggrin.gif
 Tell her I said thanks!  Maybe I missed my calling tongue.gif
Thats ok ryan..the link ken posted helped..i am now in proces doing the bass mod.pity i dont have my evil 337 with its natural detaily powerful sound anymore to test them out to the extreme redface.gif

My mum actually worked as a senior sewer for a top fashion designer here in the netherlands for 15 years....making last changes/alterations on dresses/fashion during fashion shows..as soon she is back from a trip to portugal i will show them to her..but am already sure she will approve also...

Dude..ur the bomb..u hit the sweet spot with what u did..this can only blow up to extreme highs...u deserve it.. And am sure jerg and all the lucky ones from ur first batch totally agree with me.. wink.gif



Update: i did it..i managed to change the pads..hourah!!!! biggrin.gif

first listening impressions..damn wish i had my evil unforgiving 337 now..with him i am sure i could give a better impression then this multi hundreds watts onkyo speakeramp.... But i will try

1. This sound needs to get customed to!! I come from the velvetly lightling fast excellent lighter sounding velours pads..so first hour it was hard to like the new fuller more agressive sound.
But after a while my ears and mind got customed to the sound..

And this is what i like more then the velours:

1. That bass!! Omg..especially with bass guitars and trobones..eery how low it goes now..and i love some heavy metallica and some of the lower (evilish) voices almost give me the shivers now..that evil they sound now...so much more power!
2. Mids..female voice sound more real..(adele sounds so lush now!!)
3. Decay..it looks like that music has longer time to get to pure silence..i love that!!
4. Black is blacker!! Cant explain it better
5. Sound is a bit more in yar face..fuller..supercharged..with velours its a bit more laidback.

This is what i found less then the velours
1. Soundstage is less airy..less speaker like..just a bit..but it can also be that i have to get customed to it and the pads needs burn in time..
2. Female voices dont get to the higher octaves (marah carey and sarah brighton)..burn in time?
3. Sound is a bit congested compared to the velours..burn in time?
4. Less air around the instruments...again burn in time?

All with all i consider the modular pads as supercharged pleathers...they come very close to the goods points of the velours combined with the very good points the pleathers have.

For me its a keeper..NOT PERFECT..BUT..

but then again...if i had my 337 i could experiment with tubes which sound more airy and detaily and brighter.to complement the bit darker sound compared to the velours....with some smart tuberolling i am sure this could be THE best mod ever for a hifiman headphone...no matter the price!!

..f..ck...i hate it now that i sold my evil 337.. redface.gif

but then again..my new amp will be super dynamic and punchy....is it possible that this modular supercharged/grill modded/headbandmodded he500 combined with a supersecret amp could be a serious contenter for any other (higher end) headphone rig??? Who knows!! Stay tuned for more biggrin.gif
Edited by hifimanrookie - 8/7/13 at 1:56pm
post #6952 of 18030
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Originally Posted by h4mm3r 0f th0r View Post


Look who is talking:D:D... seriously, i don't dream about these things unless i am on the verge of buying something and i am losing patience... but i think this article is the culprit as i read it saw the video within before going to sleep last night...

 

http://www.engadget.com/2013/08/05/john-vanderslice/

 

Hah! Fair enough. I've definitely had dreams where I was doing a side by side comparison of two headphones. I woke up, and was too embarrassed to tell anyone I knew what had happened.

post #6953 of 18030

I'm new to all this but sometimes when I expect something to sound good it usually does. For example, yesterday I did a mod to my DAC/AMP by pulling the pin on the optical out sensor on my 15.32. Did some ABing via the HE500s and I swear I could hear positive changes in the detail I could hear but the changes were so small I couldn't say it was really there. I was in a good mood and also expecting a positive change so maybe it was a placebo effect. Anyhow, I left it as it is am happy with this mod now. The question is, how much does your expectations, mood and current state of mind whilst critical listening play into the results? Is it 5% 10%?

 

I find that my HE500s sound better when I have no worries, my mind is at ease (my stresses at work are low). Its good this week as I'm on a training course and work worries ara kind of far behind and hence I'm enjoying the music much more.

post #6954 of 18030
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Originally Posted by spurxiii View Post

I'm new to all this but sometimes when I expect something to sound good it usually does. For example, yesterday I did a mod to my DAC/AMP by pulling the pin on the optical out sensor on my 15.32. Did some ABing via the HE500s and I swear I could hear positive changes in the detail I could hear but the changes were so small I couldn't say it was really there. I was in a good mood and also expecting a positive change so maybe it was a placebo effect. Anyhow, I left it as it is am happy with this mod now. The question is, how much does your expectations, mood and current state of mind whilst critical listening play into the results? Is it 5% 10%?

I find that my HE500s sound better when I have no worries, my mind is at ease (my stresses at work are low). Its good this week as I'm on a training course and work worries ara kind of far behind and hence I'm enjoying the music much more.
Imho ur state of mind, expectations, noise around u, amount of light!!!, mood or even health can actually interfere or change the way u experience ur listening to music..

even if u think something sounds good or bad because of a modification...it actually could sound better even if it in reality doesnt..only way to solve that is to listen to that mod for a longer period of time...

All imho ofcourse and my own personal experience my dear friends!
Edited by hifimanrookie - 8/7/13 at 2:19pm
post #6955 of 18030
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Originally Posted by spurxiii View Post

I'm new to all this but sometimes when I expect something to sound good it usually does. For example, yesterday I did a mod to my DAC/AMP by pulling the pin on the optical out sensor on my 15.32. Did some ABing via the HE500s and I swear I could hear positive changes in the detail I could hear but the changes were so small I couldn't say it was really there. I was in a good mood and also expecting a positive change so maybe it was a placebo effect. Anyhow, I left it as it is am happy with this mod now. The question is, how much does your expectations, mood and current state of mind whilst critical listening play into the results? Is it 5% 10%?

 

I find that my HE500s sound better when I have no worries, my mind is at ease (my stresses at work are low). Its good this week as I'm on a training course and work worries ara kind of far behind and hence I'm enjoying the music much more.

 

Mood and also sleep play a big part on how some days I can find the same album on same rig to sound different. One day it might be barely listenable and the other day it blows you away. Also, with low/no lighting helps usually in a positive way, The swing can actually be quite a bit. Much more than 10% at times.

 

This is why for reviews I usually like to get a feel of stuff over a couple of weeks and if possible months. I like to listen to multiple stuff and then repeat it over the period at different moods and time of day. Eventually, you'll end up with a fairly consistent baseline performance.

post #6956 of 18030
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post

 

Mood and also sleep play a big part on how some days I can find the same album on same rig to sound different. One day it might be barely listenable and the other day it blows you away. Also, with low/no lighting helps usually in a positive way, The swing can actually be quite a bit. Much more than 10% at times.

 

This is why for reviews I usually like to get a feel of stuff over a couple of weeks and if possible months. I like to listen to multiple stuff and then repeat it over the period at different moods and time of day. Eventually, you'll end up with a fairly consistent baseline performance.


as i also said in my post...i agree totally with what u just said...especially with the light thingie...i got myself a sleeping mask to have a complete black enviroment around me when listening to my music.

and it helps that i only need 4 hours sleep a day wink.gif


Edited by hifimanrookie - 8/7/13 at 2:51pm
post #6957 of 18030
Which means that we should really take with a grain of salt if the mod or cans has not been in the reviewers hand for a relatively extended period ie for more than even a few hours or even at a meet. So a review by someone who has had a mod or can in their possession for months or weeks before the review is written is magnitudes more valuable than one that is written say after the usual burn in period? Because most reviews I've seen are ones done pretty much right after the excitement of receiving the cans or a particular mod which might have incur some expectation and mood bias.
Edited by spurxiii - 8/7/13 at 4:02pm
post #6958 of 18030
Mood changes sound drastically in every respect
post #6959 of 18030
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post


Imho ur state of mind, expectations, noise around u, amount of light!!!, mood or even health can actually interfere or change the way u experience ur listening to music..

even if u think something sounds good or bad because of a modification...it actually could sound better even if it in reality doesnt..only way to solve that is to listen to that mod for a longer period of time...

All imho ofcourse and my own personal experience my dear friends!


Omg, you forgot 1 super important factor in your case........your wife's cooking tongue.gif

post #6960 of 18030
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Originally Posted by spurxiii View Post

Which means that we should really take with a grain of salt if the mod or cans has not been in the reviewers hand for a relatively extended period ie for more than even a few hours or even at a meet. So a review by someone who has had a mod or can in their possession for months or weeks before the review is written is magnitudes more valuable than one that is written say after the usual burn in period? Because most reviews I've seen are ones done pretty much h right after tthe excitement of receiving the cans or a particular mod which might have incur some expectation and mood bias.


smart post!!

 

and i agree..thats why us the most experienced posters ALWAYS SAY: initial (or first) impressions...and update it regularely as jerg does..

 

like i just did with my initial impressions about the jerg pads... and its always a personal impression..

 

sometimes two people have different opinions about same product or mod..

 

look at me...sometimes i have a very opposite opinion then some other regular posters here..RIGHT GUYS?biggrin.gif but its always my opinion! and most important: ALWAYS RESPECT OTHER ONES OPINIONS! WE ALL ARE DIFFERENT


Edited by hifimanrookie - 8/7/13 at 4:06pm
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