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post #6826 of 15198
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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post


That's what this thread needs. More pictures of headphones (not hard drives :P)

Is that a NFB-10? I bet that's a sweet pairing with the HE-500. I think it's got like 8W going.

Yeah, It’s the new NFB 10ES2. (ESS9018 DAC, New USB implementation and more steps to the volume control than the old ES)

Sounds awesome. I notice better separation, slightly more controlled bass and a bit cleaner mids compared to the Burson HA160D (which was still pretty darn good with the HE500)
post #6827 of 15198
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Originally Posted by LCfiner View Post


Yeah, It’s the new NFB 10ES2. (ESS9018 DAC, New USB implementation and more steps to the volume control than the old ES)

Sounds awesome. I notice better separation, slightly more controlled bass and a bit cleaner mids compared to the Burson HA160D (which was still pretty darn good with the HE500)

Kingwa needs a new naming scheme, way too many nfb 10. 10WM, 10SE (Wolfson) then 10ES 10ES2 (Sabre), hopefully there won't be a Nfb 10PC (pcm1704) or Nfb10PCM (pcm5102). And don't forget the Nfb 10.32 and Ref 10.32 tongue_smile.gif

 

Coincidentally I'm having his top sabre dac too (Nfb 7.32). One day if I get bored I might try the He-6 out of the XLR output of the dac =p.

post #6828 of 15198
Yup, the naming of his stuff is particularly inscrutable, even by the poor standards of high end audio items.

Took me some time on the site to figure out what was what. Reading about Audio GD items online without some background knowledge is very confusing!

But I guess I’m glad I put in the effort to figure things out.
post #6829 of 15198
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Originally Posted by LCfiner View Post

Yup, the naming of his stuff is particularly inscrutable, even by the poor standards of high end audio items.

Took me some time on the site to figure out what was what. Reading about Audio GD items online without some background knowledge is very confusing!

But I guess I’m glad I put in the effort to figure things out.
Well..i guess its always better then what i will be getting for my new amp..the manufacturer of my amp uses the initials of the buyers as the name for the custommade amp they make for them..so i guess my amp will be called 'the PaC' wink.gif
Edited by hifimanrookie - 8/3/13 at 4:50pm
post #6830 of 15198
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

I believe uall..but believe it or not..my rig sounds best when its TWO upgraded powercables are directly connected to the wall....i guess i have good wiring in my house. I even aligned the polarity (the red dots on my connectors) correctly with the wall sockets (euro/shuko here in the netherlands).. It sounds wonderful..and i spend a little less then 3000 usd on my rig in total.(hm602 ,337,he500, cabling) wink.gif. But In 1 hours i will be left without amp.. It has found a new home... The new owner is now buying a case to transport it in redface.gif thats what i call loving ur stuff!!! biggrin.gif i would do the same though!!! Arrrrgg and now waiting until end of nevember for my new amp... redface.gif

 

 

 

    lucky for you , the wiring & electric in your house is excellent . No need to buy  power conditioners.

post #6831 of 15198
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Originally Posted by LCfiner View Post


HE-500 is smoother, yes. I actually found the T1 to be too bright and wasn’t as impressed with the imaging and separation as I am with the HE-500. I know you’re a big fan of it but it’s not to everyone’s taste as it has a little too much brightness for some.

Either one is good but the HE-500 hits a nice sweet spot. not too bright, not too dark.and excellent technical capabilities

 

   T1 or HD800 needs an expensive tube amps to tame the brightness--IMO

   Als, they are very good headphones

post #6832 of 15198
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post


Well...as long my MIND and ears tell me my pair of 500euro worth of powercables sounds good..then i am happy..even if it is placebo biggrin.gif
About wiring..i dont know howits in the states..but i am moving to a new apprtment next year..still to be finished..and i saw the building plans...the whole building will have high quality fiber optical cabling for comunication purposes.. Didnt see the quality of the electricity cabling..but i guess it wont be low end also... Because of the hard instable climate i guess here builders use different quality of copper then in more stabile warmer climates..but only guessing ofcourse wink.gif

Omg..i already miss my haunted 337.. This onkyo amp by far doesnt sound as good.... redface.gif

 

    Yupe.. i agree with you ..the most important thing is what we hear & what it feels to us 

    i really am afraid that you are gonna missed your 337 although your new amp is supposed to be better

post #6833 of 15198
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Originally Posted by Georgo94 View Post

Hi guys

I was reading this thread for a long time and when I finished I went to my local music shop to listen to one of these cans. I was listening to HE-4, HE-500, T1, T90, ATH-W1000X, and all I can say is that dr. Fang did a great job in making HE-500, they are wayyyy better than any dynamic headphone. I was really surprised how good they are and how much clarity and details have appeared in my music. I decided to buy them. Previously I had Sennheiser HD 555. I was using them every day for aprox. 5-6h so the only thing I was worried about was weight of the HiFiMan's as I read they can make your neck hurt. Yesterday they finally arrived and my jaw is still laying on the ground. HE-500 is the best headphone I have ever heard. In every song there is something new, something that I haven't heard before. My vocabulary is not enough to fully express what I fell during my listening sessions (btw. sorry for my english tongue_smile.gif). Also my worries about weight were completely unfounded. I had very long listening sesion just when I got them, 8 hours of continuous playback and I felt nothing. I am wearing them right now and I am barely noticing their presence.

The stock cable is the only thing that needs to be improved. The microphonics is here but I am not moving while I listen so it doesn't matter for me. 

 

Now you probably want to know what amplifier I am using. Here is the part that might be dangerous for many head-fi'ers. Nuforce Icon HDP with 45W PSU. Before you gonna say it is ridiculous to buy so expensive pair of headphones and hook it to something like this read this. I AM ENJOYING THEM VERY MUCH IN THIS CONFIG. VERY MUCH. shout off. I know there are better amps like Lyr or some kind of speaker taps, but the truth is that I don't care. If you are happy with a config you have just be happy and enjoy it. if you are not, go and buy something better.

 

My cherry on top would be a picture but I can't upload it. 

 

 

George  

      

 

Agreed. When I first got my HE-500, I enjoyed it very much out of my Magni.

 

Guess I'll join the bandwagon and include a photo of my rig too wink_face.gif

 

 

post #6834 of 15198

Looks like a priority target for feline creatures (a $700 scratching post?) tongue_smile.gif

 

Interesting idea on the sock/carpet/whatever it is though. Does it get hot/sweaty?

post #6835 of 15198
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Originally Posted by kamalz View Post

 

   T1 or HD800 needs an expensive tube amps to tame the brightness--IMO

   Als, they are very good headphones

 

Strange. Out of even the pretty affordable NFB 5.32 Amp/DAC the T1 is not bright at all and that is a solid state system. The WA7 is warmer sure, but neither sounded all that bright to me.

 

The NFB 5.32 is a warmer solid state however.


Edited by Leliana - 8/3/13 at 10:08pm
post #6836 of 15198
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Originally Posted by khaine1711 View Post

Looks like a priority target for feline creatures (a $700 scratching post?) tongue_smile.gif

 

Interesting idea on the sock/carpet/whatever it is though. Does it get hot/sweaty?

 

Fortunately, I don't have any cats so I don't have to worry about that. It's actually a seatbelt cushion. I needed something to lift the headband up a bit because at its smallest setting, the earcups sat too low for me. It has the added effect of being extremely comfortable. It distributes the weight better because it covers a larger area and it is very soft. Surprisingly, it doesn't really seem to get hot at all to me.

post #6837 of 15198
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Originally Posted by Leliana View Post

 

Strange. Out of even the pretty affordable NFB 5.32 Amp/DAC the T1 is not bright at all and that is a solid state system. The WA7 is warmer sure, but neither sounded all that bright to me.

 

The NFB 5.32 is a warmer solid state however.

I have to be honest, I really question the credibility of the poster when they make blanket statements about the T1 being bright. Most amps can't swing enough power into 600-1400 ohms, which makes them sound bright, typical case of not enough power and under-damping. If you look at the overall FR graph of the T1 (peak included) it's actually not bright at all.

post #6838 of 15198
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Originally Posted by Georgo94 View Post

Now you probably want to know what amplifier I am using. Here is the part that might be dangerous for many head-fi'ers. Nuforce Icon HDP with 45W PSU. Before you gonna say it is ridiculous to buy so expensive pair of headphones and hook it to something like this read this. I AM ENJOYING THEM VERY MUCH IN THIS CONFIG. VERY MUCH. shout off. I know there are better amps like Lyr or some kind of speaker taps, but the truth is that I don't care. If you are happy with a config you have just be happy and enjoy it. if you are not, go and buy something better.


      

Good for you; the object is not to have the flashiest, blingiest rig, it is to find an expression of sound that moves you. If you lose yourself in your current setup, more power to you!

post #6839 of 15198
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Originally Posted by brunk View Post

I have to be honest, I really question the credibility of the poster when they make blanket statements about the T1 being bright. Most amps can't swing enough power into 600-1400 ohms, which makes them sound bright, typical case of not enough power and under-damping. If you look at the overall FR graph of the T1 (peak included) it's actually not bright at all.

I say they’re a bit bright. It just depends on what your personal reference is for bright or what your ears are sensitive to. Compared to a Grado RS1 with multiple peaks between 2 and 10K, the T1 is well behaved. But compared to nearly everything else in its price range? it’s kinda bright. The brightness is really only with the extreme upper end of treble frequencies. It shows itself (to my ears) with cymbals and other high pitched instruments but not with voices.

The T1 have a peak around 9k. Not much musical info there, but it’s a large enough peak to cause some sibilance and make it sound bright to some, regardless of how it’s amped.



It doesn’t have the mini peak of the HD800 at 6K. that can be more discomforting for more types of instruments as there’s more musical info at 6k than 9k.

But if you compare the T1 to the HD650 or HE-500 FR, it measures a bit brighter. (the HE500 peak at 9K is a few dB lower and that helps)

I should also mention that when to comes to ringing, the T1 has quite a bit at around 9K and that exacerbates the sibilance. a lot of the other headphones in this price range have fast response and less ringing at the same high frequencies, which makes them sound less bright.




HE-500 CSD for comparison. virtually no ringing



I would not be posting the graphs if I hadn’t already owned a T1 and heard it for myself.
Edited by LCfiner - 8/4/13 at 7:03am
post #6840 of 15198

as everyone is putting a pic of their rig here..i will put a last pic of my sold amp...for nostalgia sake...its how i sold it...with the tubes he choose..imho not the best sounding ones that i have (being tungsols 5998 and sj7gt mesh plates)..but he loved it!  quoting him: the sound gets more intimate and lush..like being in a smokey oldfashion jazz cafe...good for him..he left like a kid who got his first bike. biggrin.gif

 

 


Edited by hifimanrookie - 8/4/13 at 7:16am
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