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post #6571 of 18011
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and i will put u on my block list very_evil_smiley.gif as ur way to interested in my stuff biggrin.gif or am i mistaken ur 'interest' in being sarcastic maybe? damn..once again i dont understand US humor..ph34r.gif.. that humor must be really really really special then..as i simply dont get u..oh well i better stay with the european humor..thats more my game..AND AT MY LEVEL biggrin.gif

 

u know...u sometimes sound like i stole ur girl (or guy..whatever ur pleasure) or something with ur posts ...and i didnt..i really didnt... pls believe me!!! very_evil_smiley.gif

 

but i agree with u...in one eenie weenie thing..i will be less talkative bout my 3.... i promise...well...soon i wont be having him anyway..and my he500 will be gone shortly after also..so i will be gone as well..migrating to other threads. beerchug.gif

You would not want my wife, she is tough to deal with (but hot).  It is sarcasm, embrace it, no harm (or interest) intended. Here I will put an emoticon on it so you understand I mean no harmwink_face.gif

post #6572 of 18011
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Originally Posted by Fearless1 View Post

You would not want my wife, she is tough to deal with (but hot).  It is sarcasm, embrace it, no harm (or interest) intended. Here I will put an emoticon on it so you understand I mean no harmwink_face.gif


i know my friend...dont worry..i am getting ur humor better and better..bit by bit... wink.gif thats why i replied in a non-emotional way...gs1000.gif

 

but still..ur wife cant be tougher to deal with then mine..a fullblooded portuguese killing machine..if ur not careful and stay firm in ur boots she will eat u up alive with hair and all (and she has a mini-me of her of 11 years old to back her up!)....trust me..if u can handle one of those..u can handle all...(even brazilian hotblooded women are peanuts compared to them)...except for the really crazy ones ofcourse. biggrin.gif

but i have to admit ...that fire, strenghth and passion is good for something also...if u know what i mean.. very_evil_smiley.gif

 

but this is totally oftopic..lolz...lets get back to he500 and the 3...oops...very_evil_smiley.gif


Edited by hifimanrookie - 7/26/13 at 7:38am
post #6573 of 18011
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

hey guys.now gus came up with it...thanks by the way!
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i found this concerning solid core and stranded..its about speaker cables..but i think it also goes for headphone cables...

[quote:]
Just so you know the big difference between say 12g solid and 12 stranded is that the stranded can actually carry more current... the electrons move on the outside of the wire surface... therefore stranded has more surface area and can carry more amperage. Not so much more that it's that big of a deal though. Solid is used in home wiring above 8 gauge I think it is. anything 8 guage and bigger (smaller in number) is stranded.


Just use the table on this page to make sure you select the right size for your distances and speaker ohm ratings.

http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm

[endquote:]

I can only say this about that....my experience suggests it is wrong and that you've been scammed.

Cheers!

Gus
post #6574 of 18011
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Originally Posted by Gustav Mahler View Post

I can only say this about that....my experience suggests it is wrong and that you've been scammed.

Cheers!

Gus
Never bought any cable from them..this was just as an example that i found on google... wink.gif
But if ur experience say they are wrong....i respect any other opinion bout things..
post #6575 of 18011
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post

really liking my HE-500 after my DAC upgrade. they really opened up. the bass is still kinda dry at times, but its more extended and clean sounding now. anyways never realized how musical these headphone are, they didn't sound this good before. 

 

*anxious* tongue.gif

 

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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

The inside!

 

 

this is my version (there are a few versions of the 337 around, this being the latest and best for low ohm headphones) of the 337 from inside..i dont see lots of ofc copper wires...its all soldered point to point....am i lucky now? wink.gif

 

ps..my amp is modded a bit..the thick (copper) cables on both sides of the amp in this pic is non-existent in mine as my powerswitches are relocated to the back...as the previous owner believed those cables interfered with the soundquality...and to be honest..i dont know what he did for the rest inside also..he said he upgraded 'thingies' so here and there..but didnt want to say what..he said: just enjoy the amp...dont worry bout the technicalities..oh well...his upgraditis works very well for me until now.beerchug.gif

Looks very clean...point to point is the way to go cool.gif The solid core hook-ups are probably still plated copper, likely with silver or nickle.  Sounds like the modder made some good choices re-routing the power switches, it's best to have those as separate as possible.  He likely also swapped out most/all of the caps and resistors for higher quality stuff.  I'd be very curious to hear your 337!

post #6576 of 18011
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

hey guys.now gus came up with it...thanks by the way!

...

i found this concerning solid core and stranded..its about speaker cables..but i think it also goes for headphone cables...

 

[quote:]

Just so you know the big difference between say 12g solid and 12 stranded is that the stranded can actually carry more current... the electrons move on the outside of the wire surface... therefore stranded has more surface area and can carry more amperage. Not so much more that it's that big of a deal though. Solid is used in home wiring above 8 gauge I think it is. anything 8 guage and bigger (smaller in number) is stranded.

Just use the table on this page to make sure you select the right size for your distances and speaker ohm ratings.

http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm

 

[endquote:]

Electrons move on the outside of wire surface? wow.  While this is somewhat true but when I was in school long ago, I learned that current travel through the core of a wire.  The only time current would travel on the surface of a wire is when you have more than 1 strand right next to each other causing a repelling effect.  Even when this happens, the amount of current travels on the wire surface is extremely small and negligible in comparison to what's going thru the core.   Maybe, the minute amount could be detected and makes some difference in long audio cable.


Edited by koiloco - 7/26/13 at 9:14am
post #6577 of 18011
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post

Electrons move on the outside of wire surface? wow.  While this is somewhat true but when I was in school long ago, I learned that current travel through the core of a wire.  The only time current would travel on the surface of a wire is when you have more than 1 strand right next to each other causing a repelling effect.  Even when this happens, the amount of current travels on the wire surface is extremely small and negligible in comparison to what's going thru the core.   Maybe, the minute amount could be detected and makes some difference in long audio cable.

thanks for this very clear explanation...never knew that...well i guess some people even lie to sell their stuff/cables...eek.gif

.i think i am starting to look in some solid core 18awg retangular headphone cable next...those are expensive (600usd and up)..but if they deliver the goods..i want one.


Edited by hifimanrookie - 7/26/13 at 9:47am
post #6578 of 18011
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

thanks for this very clear explanation...never knew that...well i guess some people even lie to sell their stuff/cables...eek.gif
.i think i am starting to look in some solid core 18awg retangular headphone cable next...those are expensive (600usd and up)..but if they deliver the goods..i want one.

Larry Dale at headphile.com does nice solid core cables. Of course, you could make your own.

Cheers!

Gus
post #6579 of 18011
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Originally Posted by Gustav Mahler View Post


Larry Dale at headphile.com does nice solid core cables. Of course, you could make your own.

Cheers!

Gus


thanks for the tip..but i think i already know the perfect brand for my taste..and they happen to make a very special retangular 18awg solid core copper cable...but only on a very special request...as its not their regular model... wink.gif

post #6580 of 18011
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post


thanks for the tip..but i think i already know the perfect brand for my taste..and they happen to make a very special retangular 18awg solid core copper cable...but only on a very special request...as its not their regular model... wink.gif

Sounds like the perfect solution to any microphonics issues, because the cable wouldn't even be able to move tongue.gif I keed I keed ...I suspect 26AWG or smaller solid core wire would be pliant enough.

post #6581 of 18011

I don't want to get too into this cable discussion because I'm already tugging at my hair, but I will say that you should never get solid core wire for a headphone cable. 

post #6582 of 18011
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post


thanks for the tip..but i think i already know the perfect brand for my taste..and they happen to make a very special retangular 18awg solid core copper cable...but only on a very special request...as its not their regular model... wink.gif

I really wonder what brand that could be... Nope, I just can't guess.

post #6583 of 18011
Try double helix Peter will set you up with a great cable at a good price
I have his copper cable and have him sleeving and cutting stock he500 for me
post #6584 of 18011
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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post

I don't want to get too into this cable discussion because I'm already tugging at my hair, but I will say that you should never get solid core wire for a headphone cable. 


+1.

Stranded wire is often superior in flexibility in comparison to solid, especially when you are approaching bigger gauges.  Thus it would be more durable if subjected to a lot of movements like in HP cables.  Also, the current through solid vs. stranded wire could be measured/verified easily with good/sensitive meters to nullify this myth.


Edited by koiloco - 7/26/13 at 11:07am
post #6585 of 18011

what have i done.... i created another debateeek.gif solid vs stranded biggrin.gif

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