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post #6496 of 18011

Here are photos and impressions of the Modulor Jergpads!

 

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/646812/hifiman-he500-he400-jergpad-mod-v2-0/675#post_9644743

post #6497 of 18011
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

Here are photos and impressions of the Modulor Jergpads!

 

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/646812/hifiman-he500-he400-jergpad-mod-v2-0/675#post_9644743


thanks man for ur fast review .....now i want my pads even more!!! aaaarrrggghhh biggrin.gif

post #6498 of 18011
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thanks man for ur fast review .....now i want my pads even more!!! aaaarrrggghhh biggrin.gif


+1

post #6499 of 18011

Hey guys, which aftermarket cable do you recommend for the HE-500s?

The cheaper the better, as long as it's durable and don't have microphonics...

post #6500 of 18011
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post


Step #2 is only if you want a shorter cable like in my case.  The sleeve go over the entire main section and the L/R cables.  Heat shrink tubes are for holding the sleeve in place at the 1/4 plug, at the "Y" and at the cup connectors.  Plan ahead with the all heat shrink tubes and put them in before soldering, but after sleeving  of course.


Sorry, I let your post pass.


I think I got it now. I'll look for some sleeve tomorrow.


Edited by Okamoto - 7/24/13 at 5:58pm
post #6501 of 18011
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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post

@Hifimanrookie Argh, many questions... Stax first: They need a special amplfier, and there aren't that many to chooe from. Simple as that, if you want power and enough of it, you gotta pay for it. Proper Stat amps are expensive.. Also, there is the fact that Stax in general has charged more for the amp than the headphone throughout history. That is when you buy a typical Stax system and don't go for the cheapest one available... So there are more expensive amps on the market compared to the actual headspeakers, I guess.

You seem to talk about how you can always hear the differences on high quality files. Must say I am sceptical. You should try for yourself and see how hard differentiating something as simple as 128 kbit/s ogg or aac can be.

Anywayz, speaker amps are made to deliver a hell of a lot of current compared to many headphone amps. Most speakers have an impedance around 2-8 ohms, and you need amps that can deliver enough current into those bastards. They are even way more insensitive than headphones. Else, I guess the difference between speaker and headphone amps are minor...


General question: How does output impedance of an amp affect fullsize speakers?
thanks for the explanations about stax and speaker amps davidsh...didnt know that about the staxes...good info!

yes..ofcourse i can hear a difference between a 128Kbits/s and a flac/wav of 1500Kbits/s  everyone can! i mean...on my amp i can!! i can guess if ur amp is not very good in detail and instrument placement and soundstage u wont hear a lot of difference..or not so easy to hear...

as i said...the more i improved my rig..the better the output became...being amp modding/balanced cables/powercables/anti vibrations thingies (tube amps are horrible with microphobics!), tube rolling or headphone modding...it got better and better..and so i could hear differences easier and easier...

now a 128-256 kbit/s sounds awfull..as if i am listening in a tunnel (narrow soundstaget and depth) compared to a <1000Kbit/s lossless flac or wav..(on my mstage i didnt hear a big difference between the two by the way..!) or directly from a cd from my OPPO...but once again..i dont use a pc as source! i use a very musical DAP as my source with a very high gain.

but its all to my ears ofcourse (or my brain biggrin.gif )..and they are very sensitive as i said before....loud volume is painful to my ears...as is extreme treble in music..it gives me headaches and ringing in my ears...but i can hear the smallest nuances in music...i see that as a challenge..everytime i do something to my rig (like the jerg grill mod the other day) i lay down on my comfy chair and start a many hours listening session to see if i can hear new (or changed) things in the music...and until now..i did with every change in my rig.....and i will keep on doing this until the sound will get worse or no change will be found...i think i am at the max for this rig now..with everything i changed or upgraded...next step would be selling my hm602 (or only use it portable as it is intended with a good portable smaller headphone) and my 337 and get a new better amp/dac instead and guess what i did just recently... wink.gif
Ohh, I was talking 128 kbit ogg in an ABX test, forgot to mention that.

I want to note, that you can't in any way compare position of the volume pot between amps.
post #6502 of 18011
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Ohh, I was talking 128 kbit ogg in an ABX test, forgot to mention that.

I want to note, that you can't in any way compare position of the volume pot between amps.

noted.biggrin.gif.i already found it strange that my amp had same position in volume as urs as being listenable.

 

about the ogg thingie...as far i know my source cant play them (hm602)...only wav, flac and mp3...so..sorry..cant test it.redface.gif


Edited by hifimanrookie - 7/24/13 at 6:59pm
post #6503 of 18011
The only thing I liked better with the 400 was the 3d sound stage
I could hardly listen to female vocals so shrill
The 500 has a much better over all sound
As far as amps I use the lyr 6 watts power and quality sound for a very reasonable price
As far as after market cable try DHC great cable and Peter is very good to deal with
post #6504 of 18011
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post


I tried that wrapped sleeve too but found that it doesn't work well on small cables in HPs and cables that got moved around a lot like in our case.

Yeah, being slit it probably would tend to open up unless you put a lot of tape, then it would get too stiff from the tape.  Oh well.  A nice silk sleeve or similar would be better anyway.

post #6505 of 18011
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

noted.biggrin.gif.i already found it strange that my amp had same position in volume as urs as being listenable.

 

about the ogg thingie...as far i know my source cant play them (hm602)...only wav, flac and mp3...so..sorry..cant test it.redface.gif

Oh well, you need a computer to do ABX testing anyway. I am just trying to say, no matter how superior you think your hearing is, even 128 kbit ogg or aac would be a challenge to get right all the time.  256 kbit would probably very hard, and I bet you will start to be a bit unreliable in your guessing at this point. That is being optimistic, though. But... No reason to discuss it really, just don't want anyone to fool themselves.

post #6506 of 18011
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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post

Oh well, you need a computer to do ABX testing anyway. I am just trying to say, no matter how superior you think your hearing is, even 128 kbit ogg or aac would be a challenge to get right all the time.  256 kbit would probably very hard, and I bet you will start to be a bit unreliable in your guessing at this point. That is being optimistic, though. But... No reason to discuss it really, just don't want anyone to fool themselves.


right.... biggrin.gif and who said anything about people having superior hearing? some are just a little bit deafer then others very_evil_smiley.gif


Edited by hifimanrookie - 7/25/13 at 4:56am
post #6507 of 18011
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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post

Oh well, you need a computer to do ABX testing anyway. I am just trying to say, no matter how superior you think your hearing is, even 128 kbit ogg or aac would be a challenge to get right all the time.  256 kbit would probably very hard, and I bet you will start to be a bit unreliable in your guessing at this point. That is being optimistic, though. But... No reason to discuss it really, just don't want anyone to fool themselves.

The test also depends on the recording. With some recordings it will be tough while with others it's easier.
post #6508 of 18011

I'm actually thinking about downgrading my set up.

 

Any opinions guys?

post #6509 of 18011
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Originally Posted by IcedTea View Post

I'm actually thinking about downgrading my set up.

 

Any opinions guys?


downgrading from lyr and bifrost? or just the he500?

the hd650 could be a cheaper alternative for the he500..and then get a cheaper (chinese) tube amp like the darkvoice 3322 instead of the lyr as those pair very well with the hd650..for the dac i dont know any other downgrade i could advice imho as the bifrost is already a lower budget model.

post #6510 of 18011

finally my he-500

 

 

and for hifimanrookie, enjoy this

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